ot/ dumbos of America

subterFUSE · Post by **subterFUSE** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:02 pm

dj superflat wrote:yeah, fox news is well known for just making stuff up, which no one catches, of course, b/c they can't easily check it via other new outlets, the internet, papers, etc. by contrast, papers like the times haven't had any issues lately with publishing blatantly false things, having to fire reporters who just made stuff up, etc. if only fox news were as reliable as the other media, like reuters and its doctored fotos, etc.

The funny part is..... I doubt anyone else here picked up on your sarcasm.

DeadlyKungFu · Post by **DeadlyKungFu** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:06 pm

subterFUSE wrote:
dj superflat wrote:yeah, fox news is well known for just making stuff up, which no one catches, of course, b/c they can't easily check it via other new outlets, the internet, papers, etc. by contrast, papers like the times haven't had any issues lately with publishing blatantly false things, having to fire reporters who just made stuff up, etc. if only fox news were as reliable as the other media, like reuters and its doctored fotos, etc.

The funny part is..... I doubt anyone else here picked up on your sarcasm.

You're being sarcastic, right?

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:15 pm

i think chomsky's career as a linguist points to his ability to actually steer clear of the rhetorical bullshit our politicians (on both sides of the spectrum) feed us... and if there is one truth to be found in contemporary politics and world events, its the actions and events that write history.

once you can see through the bullshit, suddenly all you have is actual events to draw conclusions from. Chomsky speaks of actual events in history.

and to be frank, you can't fuck with that.

rtopia · Post by **rtopia** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:20 pm

DeadlyKungFu wrote:
subterFUSE wrote:
dj superflat wrote:yeah, fox news is well known for just making stuff up, which no one catches, of course, b/c they can't easily check it via other new outlets, the internet, papers, etc. by contrast, papers like the times haven't had any issues lately with publishing blatantly false things, having to fire reporters who just made stuff up, etc. if only fox news were as reliable as the other media, like reuters and its doctored fotos, etc.

The funny part is..... I doubt anyone else here picked up on your sarcasm.
You're being sarcastic, right?

he probably was, but most people in this forum are so "anti-anti", they were too blinded by their intolerance to notice.

the real saracasm is some dude who actually looks like the devil, rolling up in a bright red shirt and calling someone else the devil.

(insert pot v. kettle analogy here)

- r

ps. he even pissed Charlie Rangel off : )

dm_hawk · Post by **dm_hawk** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:23 pm

DeadlyKungFu wrote:
dm_hawk wrote:vae vobis scribae et Pharisaei hypocritae quia similes estis sepulchris dealbatis quae a foris parent hominibus speciosa intus vero plena sunt ossibus mortuorum et omni spurcitia
I read that out loud and turned my cat into a newt, how do I undo the spell?

it's a quote from the new testament about whitewashed tombs - just trying to be stylishly cryptic

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:27 pm

Good for Chavez!

I like spanish speaking people more anywayz

peace

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but it's pretty childish of him to call someone names - but look at this, Bush is acting like a 13 year old - "I'm not going to meet with him, nu uh, nope not gon' do it"

These are suppose to be the leaders of the world and they're all acting out like kids - you'd think they had handles on this forum

but I'm glad he spoke his mind - to bad he will probably be assasinated or choke on a "chicken" bone

oh, well -

cosmosuave · Post by **cosmosuave** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:33 pm

Shit I thought this was about that cute elephant with the big ears....

john gordon · Post by **john gordon** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:45 pm

i lije chavez too.anyone who calls bush the devil os cool.

knotkranky · Post by **knotkranky** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:52 pm

The U.N. address by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has had an unexpected impact — on the best seller lists of Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble.com.

At the start of his talk Wednesday, during which Chavez referred to President Bush as "the devil," Chavez held up a book by Noam Chomsky, "Hegemony or Survival: America's Quest for Global Dominance," and recommended it to everyone in the General Assembly, as well as to the American people.

"The people of the United States should read this ... instead of the watching Superman movies," Chavez later told reporters.

muscleandhate · Post by **muscleandhate** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:06 pm

Bash Bush and gain support from your grassroots. This is Chavez's agenda. It's about time that someone spoke out on the international sphere about American foriegn policy, but I personally feel it would be more useful if it was constructive criticism, as opposed to name calling. Chavez may well be as insane as Bush, but you can't criticise his affection for the poor, whether it be for his own ends or not, at least he is doing something positive, unlike Bush and his administration.

DeadlyKungFu · Post by **DeadlyKungFu** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:21 pm

I'm afraid that constructive criticism for Bush would be like potty training a rodeo bull.

Good book btw, it lays out the US' pattern of influencing a foreign country that's in conflict. Support one side (or both) of a conflict, set up industries to rape the local resources, take advantage of local labor then leave.

muscleandhate · Post by **muscleandhate** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:25 pm

Yes, the American people really need to realise they are not living in any meaningful form of democracy. This is the age of corporations and their unprecedented power needs to be revoked.

glu · Post by **glu** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:29 pm

today's democracy = complacency

knotkranky · Post by **knotkranky** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:44 pm

Rent "The Corporation" if you haven't already. Great!

Below is the trailer and the full movie. This is one to own.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... orporation Trailer

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... orporation full length movie

subterFUSE · Post by **subterFUSE** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:01 pm

knotkranky wrote:The U.N. address by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has had an unexpected impact — on the best seller lists of Amazon.com and Barnes & Noble.com.

At the start of his talk Wednesday, during which Chavez referred to President Bush as "the devil," Chavez held up a book by Noam Chomsky, "Hegemony or Survival: America's Quest for Global Dominance," and recommended it to everyone in the General Assembly, as well as to the American people.

"The people of the United States should read this ... instead of the watching Superman movies," Chavez later told reporters.

Chavez said he was sorry he didn't get to meet Chomsky before he died.... but Chomsky isn't even dead.