Or is it just me?
Since I installed Panther, everything has been such a nightmare, I've already emailed Alex and I'm looking forward to read what he has to say about this. I swear, I can't get a decent session going without my cpu meter pegging in the 80-90% area, spinning beachballs appear at the slightest movement or keystroke, the whole thing is sluggish. It makes me wonder how are people actually getting to perform live, man I envy that feeling as I'm scheduled to play in march, but at this rate, I can't do it!!!
What gets me most is that in theory, I have a pretty powerful computer...
Powerbook G4 1.25ghz
1GB RAM
80GB HD
Panther 10.3.2
Live 3.0.2
Whether I use the Digi002R or the built-in outputs, it's still horrible. One simple dealy as a send effect and I'm f___ed! That's no way to work. I've tried different buffer setting and still, it didn't help one bit. It 's extremely frustrating after spending so much money![/i]
anyone having issues with Live+Panther?
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shermanfunk
Thanks for the reply,
yeah, I suppose I could go back to Jaguar, though so much about progress...
By the way, what else have you read regarding Panther and audio programs, just curious as things seem ok on the ProTools side of things, and Reason, well, it would take a lot to f**k with Reason, that thing is stable on just about everything. For me, it's all about Live, I love this program but right now, I can't use it.
yeah, I suppose I could go back to Jaguar, though so much about progress...
By the way, what else have you read regarding Panther and audio programs, just curious as things seem ok on the ProTools side of things, and Reason, well, it would take a lot to f**k with Reason, that thing is stable on just about everything. For me, it's all about Live, I love this program but right now, I can't use it.
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bensuthers
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wow.
While I'm glad to see it's working out great for you guys, it's certainly discouraging to feel like maybe it is just me...?
Let me ask you this, then.
If your Mac didn't come with Panther, did you upgrade to it from Jaguar or did you do a clean install?
Did you ever experience RAM issues in areas other than audio applications, having to replace some chips at some point? I just replaced both my 512mb chips as the ones I got from MacMall were crap, but these don't seem to help either.
In your Live sessions, are you getting by with big sessions, lots of tracks and effects/processing?
Just trying to troubleshoot on my own, haven't heard back from the Abes yet.
Thanks.
While I'm glad to see it's working out great for you guys, it's certainly discouraging to feel like maybe it is just me...?
Let me ask you this, then.
If your Mac didn't come with Panther, did you upgrade to it from Jaguar or did you do a clean install?
Did you ever experience RAM issues in areas other than audio applications, having to replace some chips at some point? I just replaced both my 512mb chips as the ones I got from MacMall were crap, but these don't seem to help either.
In your Live sessions, are you getting by with big sessions, lots of tracks and effects/processing?
Just trying to troubleshoot on my own, haven't heard back from the Abes yet.
Thanks.
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bensuthers
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> If your Mac didn't come with Panther, did you upgrade to it from Jaguar
> or did you do a clean install?
upgrade from Jaguar.
> Did you ever experience RAM issues in areas other than audio
> applications, having to replace some chips at some point?
no RAM issues at all. 640MB in the 400. 512 in the 1G
> In your Live sessions, are you getting by with big sessions, lots of
> tracks and effects/processing?
12-16 tracks; not 'loads' of effects/processing.
> or did you do a clean install?
upgrade from Jaguar.
> Did you ever experience RAM issues in areas other than audio
> applications, having to replace some chips at some point?
no RAM issues at all. 640MB in the 400. 512 in the 1G
> In your Live sessions, are you getting by with big sessions, lots of
> tracks and effects/processing?
12-16 tracks; not 'loads' of effects/processing.
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jeffrydada
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I'm running almost the same system. I'm only running 512 of ram and my interface is a Tascam 224. I have never used more than 20% of cpu. My PB came with Panther. In recording sessions I don't use a ton of effects I tend to add effects in post production. Early releases of the 15.2 G4 PB's that shipped with jaguar had numerous bugs, like monitor brightness, and loose hinges, there could easily be issues with the ram. You shouldn't be having any issues with the equipment and software you are using. The problem has got to be in the 'book itself.
wow...thread's still alive, thanks for your replies.
well, I called Apple Care and it's going in on monday. However, I did re-install Panther this weekend, from scratch - not over Jaguar like last time, re-installed Live and the 3.0.2 update, with hopes of a better life with Live (insert violins here), but alas, spinning beachballs are here to stay, Live now quits out of nowhere, in the middle of a session, so does Safari and the once stable ProTools LE does the same.
I just spent $300 on 2 new RAM chips which seem to be faulty. At this point I can't think of what else could cause this. Digidesign Core Audio driver? Dunno, but it wouldn't be my first guess.
But! I did notice something while trying some of my own troubleshooting yesterday. As I don't have an external mixer, I need to monitor through Live when recording my synths and external signals. However, just as a trial I disabled the "monitoring through Live" option in the preferences. It seemed to help quite a bit! I mean, the CPU meter is still ridiculously high for such a machine but at least Live doesn't quit in the blink of an eye. Of course, it dosn't help matters as I would need this option engaged to hear what I'm doing. Just an observation I thought I'd share.
well, I called Apple Care and it's going in on monday. However, I did re-install Panther this weekend, from scratch - not over Jaguar like last time, re-installed Live and the 3.0.2 update, with hopes of a better life with Live (insert violins here), but alas, spinning beachballs are here to stay, Live now quits out of nowhere, in the middle of a session, so does Safari and the once stable ProTools LE does the same.
I just spent $300 on 2 new RAM chips which seem to be faulty. At this point I can't think of what else could cause this. Digidesign Core Audio driver? Dunno, but it wouldn't be my first guess.
But! I did notice something while trying some of my own troubleshooting yesterday. As I don't have an external mixer, I need to monitor through Live when recording my synths and external signals. However, just as a trial I disabled the "monitoring through Live" option in the preferences. It seemed to help quite a bit! I mean, the CPU meter is still ridiculously high for such a machine but at least Live doesn't quit in the blink of an eye. Of course, it dosn't help matters as I would need this option engaged to hear what I'm doing. Just an observation I thought I'd share.
pb prpblems
live runs fine on my pb g4 1ghz, 512, panther, even with top notch reverb and nine, ten tracks, still only peaks out at 60%cpu.
ACR
ACR
Re: panther
I can't wait to get my lappy back from Apple and see what they diagnose. Before I sent it in, on one particular Live session with 9 tracks, I put ONE filter delay on a send track and watched my meter occasionally go to 110%, then back down, then 88%, then back down, then 106%, and so on...namito wrote:hoping for better days...
I'm become so used to Live being worthless on my machine (did I mention that it's a spanking new Alu-book G4 1.25ghz with 1GB of ram?) that I couldn't help but chuckle and as you said, hoping for better days.
Oh and by the way, Ableton NEVER got back to me about this, after many nice and well spaced emails over the past 4 weeks. I even started a thread about 'support...' to which they replied, but they never contacted me about my problem. Weird...