simpler and impulse - loaded samples never sound like origin

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deepfunktribal
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simpler and impulse - loaded samples never sound like origin

Post by deepfunktribal » Thu Oct 05, 2006 8:39 pm

when i load samples in simpler or impulse and play them with simpler/sampler they never sound like the original samples dropped.
is there any way/setting in simpler/impulse to make them sound like they real are ?

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Post by Michael-SW » Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:01 pm

Play on C3, make sure envelopes filter etc are off.

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Post by datapopstar » Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:08 pm

in impulse, for example, the sample amplitude envelope is per default a bit shorter then the maximum amount...maybe one reason why a sample sounds different?
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Post by philipbarrett » Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:23 pm

I've found the same thing - generally it seems that once the sample is dropped into Impulse or Simpler is loses some low end. I've tried mucking around with every adjustment but to no avail.

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Post by Meef Chaloin » Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:28 pm

the decay/trigger/gate knob/button seems to make a difference by default, make sure its set to play the sample in full

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Post by deepfunktribal » Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:58 pm

seems not so easy to make a sample sound like it really is...
in my opinion there should of course be a setting or preset of simpler/impulse which does make a sample really sound like the original.
if i choose a nice sample after hearing one after the other and then when i want to use it in impulse/simpler and it is not sounding like it was before than the prelistening and choosing work is not straightforward ;-(

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Post by stale bread » Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:02 am

deepfunktribal wrote:seems not so easy to make a sample sound like it really is...
in my opinion there should of course be a setting or preset of simpler/impulse which does make a sample really sound like the original.
if i choose a nice sample after hearing one after the other and then when i want to use it in impulse/simpler and it is not sounding like it was before than the prelistening and choosing work is not straightforward ;-(
make a preset for them with settings how you like and save it :idea:
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Post by jamester » Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:15 am

Well this is sucky news! I'll have to check this out... :?
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Post by hoffman2k » Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:32 am

Remember that you might have WARPING in the browser on by default. This might make short samples sound different.

The second reason is the decay, Impulse has a max decay of 10 seconds. But it is set much lower by default.


So there is a reason why samples sound different. there is also a cure.
In Live's preferences, you have the option to set "one-shot sounds" to be unwarped in the browser.

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Post by deepfunktribal » Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:37 pm

so there is no way to make a sample dropped to simpler/impulse and prelistened "not warped" to make it sound like it is ?
i tryed all settings (decay, envelopes & filters off, c3...) but no way...

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Post by datapopstar » Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:43 pm

deepfunktribal wrote:so there is no way to make a sample dropped to simpler/impulse and prelistened "not warped" to make it sound like it is ?
i tryed all settings (decay, envelopes & filters off, c3...) but no way...
just a small question, have you tried to reduce the volume of the prelistening device?
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Post by Willyum » Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:45 pm

deepfunktribal wrote:so there is no way to make a sample dropped to simpler/impulse and prelistened "not warped" to make it sound like it is ?
i tryed all settings (decay, envelopes & filters off, c3...) but no way...
Just turn the automatic warping off in prefrences when you audition to your samples.

There is no audible difference in sound quality. I have checked with a bunch of different types of samples. You guys are hearing the difference in volume, and for some, you have Automatic warping on.

There is no difference!
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