The future of internet music ??!?!?!??!?!?!

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:24 pm

http://www.splicemusic.com

wow

smutek · Post by **smutek** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:41 pm

hmm....

umm...

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:50 pm

smutek wrote:hmm....

umm...

dont think having an acid like sequencer in a browser with realtime community integration is a big deal?

evoid · Post by **evoid** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:00 pm

this can be something...

smutek · Post by **smutek** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:13 pm

sweetjesus wrote:
smutek wrote:hmm....

umm...
dont think having an acid like sequencer in a browser with realtime community integration is a big deal?

no no, you've gotten my "umm" all wrong. It was more of a baffled, dumb-founded, what will they think of next... what does the future have in store for us.... I've had too many crab chips to contribute anything meaningful... kind of umm.

It's extremely interestng.

even · Post by **even** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:20 pm

indeed, but it's lacking basic features like cut. this could be big in a few years

frankie123 · Post by **frankie123** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:37 pm

even wrote:indeed, but it's lacking basic features like cut. this could be big in a few years

Could be huge. Unfortunately, i listened to about 10 tracks on that site, sounded like pure shite. Most of these people don't even know how to sync up a simple beat with a bass.

john gordon · Post by **john gordon** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 10:37 pm

did you listen to some of the music on there.its a joke.wankers playing with loops is all.

mercyplease · Post by **mercyplease** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:50 pm

we musos think why wouldnt everyone wish to write music if they could have the tools the reality is that people get bored very quickly their not so fascinated as we think they would be. The industry, hardware and software has sort of got caught up in this music for everyone idea but how many home keyboards are bought every christmas and are in the cupboard two weeks later. Playing and writing music isnt for everyone just like dancing or acting. Its a niche market

crankshaft · Post by **crankshaft** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:34 am

We are happy to announce that we JUST released Splice v2 -- with realtime synths & effects. Check it out:

http://www.splicemusic.com/

forge · Post by **forge** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 3:43 am

mercyplease wrote:we musos think why wouldnt everyone wish to write music if they could have the tools the reality is that people get bored very quickly their not so fascinated as we think they would be. The industry, hardware and software has sort of got caught up in this music for everyone idea but how many home keyboards are bought every christmas and are in the cupboard two weeks later. Playing and writing music isnt for everyone just like dancing or acting. Its a niche market

+1

it doesnt take too long to discover what an absolute pain in the arse it is to tweak music long enough to make it listenable

but then there are also plenty of delusional people out there as pop idol testifies

mdme_sadie · Post by **mdme_sadie** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:20 am

I see this as a very big thing, and it's really features likethis that I wish were in Ableton:

1) In app online audio sample, rack and presets database added to by the userbase over time, ideally utilising bittorrent technology distributed server based downloading coupled with a central backup seeding server for when no-one else is online.

2) Online sharing of creations in a compact file format (making use of aforementioned file sharing system.

3) Multi-player sequencing across the internet. Right now at a gig you can in a very primitive fashion link up multiple midi controllers and allow more than one person to control Live at once, but why not over the internet? It's clip based format is *ideal* for this stuff. Just imagine recording a clip from a line source, your buddy gets a lofi 8bit low sample rate version of it as you record, then when you're happy you can sync it up direct to him and he can choose to then pull the full quality sample down to his end when he's ready, everything apart from samples would require barely any bandwidth. When one person is editing a clip or sequence, then lock out the controls as they edit them (child/parent object lock) so you can't have two people messing with the same control, or one moving/deleting a clip/track that someone else is working on at the same time.

The potential is just huge for this sort of thing really, it's only a matter of when it'll all happen, the only if is if Ableton will catch on quick enough to corner the market or too late.

hacktheplanet · Post by **hacktheplanet** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:39 am

This is a really neat concept! I'm curious to see how people will use it.
What's next? Networked Ableton Live!

Also, the woman giving the video tour sounded really hot. Oh man, I need to find an audio nerd girl. We could talk about plugins, tracks, channels, and delay aaaaalllllll night.

3dot... · Post by **3dot...** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:03 am

...amazing...
whats next??
a web Version of live???

forge · Post by **forge** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:24 am

mdme_sadie wrote:I see this as a very big thing, and it's really features likethis that I wish were in Ableton:

1) In app online audio sample, rack and presets database added to by the userbase over time, ideally utilising bittorrent technology distributed server based downloading coupled with a central backup seeding server for when no-one else is online.

2) Online sharing of creations in a compact file format (making use of aforementioned file sharing system.

3) Multi-player sequencing across the internet. Right now at a gig you can in a very primitive fashion link up multiple midi controllers and allow more than one person to control Live at once, but why not over the internet? It's clip based format is *ideal* for this stuff. Just imagine recording a clip from a line source, your buddy gets a lofi 8bit low sample rate version of it as you record, then when you're happy you can sync it up direct to him and he can choose to then pull the full quality sample down to his end when he's ready, everything apart from samples would require barely any bandwidth. When one person is editing a clip or sequence, then lock out the controls as they edit them (child/parent object lock) so you can't have two people messing with the same control, or one moving/deleting a clip/track that someone else is working on at the same time.

The potential is just huge for this sort of thing really, it's only a matter of when it'll all happen, the only if is if Ableton will catch on quick enough to corner the market or too late.

well Ableton's Robert Henke (aka Monolake) has been a user or "atlantic waves" software which is all about that kind of thing - have a look at his site or google it

with Ableton, I think there simply arent enough hours in the day, but I wouldnt assume they havent thought about this

they take a long time to decide the best way of achieving their ideas, and then they have to implement it with a relatively small team

The future of internet music ??!?!?!??!?!?!

The future of internet music ??!?!?!??!?!?!

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