TORQ IS OUT!

smutek · Post by **smutek** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:15 pm

Thanks for the links corporation. Did you have to do any special calibration to your turntables when you were checking it out or was it pretty much plug and play?

I also notice the minimum (mac) requirements as being a 1.5 ghz, my laptop is a 1.25 ghz g4. I'm wondering if it will even be able to run it.

corporation · Post by **corporation** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 4:50 pm

pretty much plug and play once i read the user guide.

no tweeking needed for my technics 1200 mk2.

smutek · Post by **smutek** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:31 pm

Thanks.

I was just looking on the m-audio site and see that it will run on a 1.25 ghz g4 which is cool.

I think I am going to pick this up.

glitchrock-buddha · Post by **glitchrock-buddha** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:44 pm

I am really looking forward to hearing how it performs using an external mixer, and running back into another soundcard on the same computer. If anyone uses it this way, please report.

Thanks a bunch,

grb

genshi · Post by **genshi** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:51 pm

heh, I did the screenshots for their manual as well as most of the Skins in Torq itself. Wasn't sure if they were going to leave my "stage-name" jido-genshi in the screenshots, but they did!

Those of you who pick this app up will be pretty impressed with it as far as DJ apps go.

smutek · Post by **smutek** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:00 pm

glitchrock-buddha wrote:I am really looking forward to hearing how it performs using an external mixer.....

Hmm.... Yeah, this is probably a really stupid question, but this can be set up to use with an external mixer right? I'm not worried about runing it back into another soundcard on the same machine, but using an external mixer is crucial for me.

robin · Post by **robin** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:00 pm

So does anyone who has more knowledge of audio than me tell me if the specs for the actual audio interface are any good. I'm thinking not but I can't find any specific details (apart from it won't do 24bit).

It's a tempting deal all this but I'd rather just get an Audiofire2 audio interface.

glitchrock-buddha · Post by **glitchrock-buddha** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 7:52 pm

smutek wrote:
glitchrock-buddha wrote:I am really looking forward to hearing how it performs using an external mixer.....
Hmm.... Yeah, this is probably a really stupid question, but this can be set up to use with an external mixer right? I'm not worried about runing it back into another soundcard on the same machine, but using an external mixer is crucial for me.

Oh yea. it's meant to run fine with an external mixer for sure. The audio goes from your computer out through usb to the torq hardware, which you route to your mixer. It's just like a usb soundcard.

For me, I want to use it for scratching on tracks, which means I have to route it from my mixer back into my firebox to record onto audio tracks. So hopefully it runs smooth at the same time as another soundcard.

Macriada · Post by **Macriada** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:00 pm

Think I'm gonna have to get this!

ReWire possibilties are awesome. I love the idea of integrating vinyl & Live without the hefty price tag of the Xone: 3D for example.

Dolphin Music (UK) are selling @ £199 w/ timecode discs.

Anyone found a better UK price yet?

KU · Post by KU » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:47 pm

glitchrock-buddha wrote:
For me, I want to use it for scratching on tracks, which means I have to route it from my mixer back into my firebox to record onto audio tracks. So hopefully it runs smooth at the same time as another soundcard.

This is also my big question. I want to use the vinyl control part of TORQ and run it into Live via rewire in a live performance situation. But that would mean I have to use that Connectiv soundcard.

I know that on a MAC you can run two soundcards... so you might be able to have the vinyl control inputs going to Connectiv/TORQ, then then rewire it into Live, and use your main soundcard also.

One of the first questions somebody asked me about the Connectiv was if they could use it in conjuction with their M-Powered Protools/Project Mix via Rewire on their PC. At first I thought that should work, but then of course it dawned on me that you would have to use both the soundcards at the same time. I also wonder if its possible to use TORQ and the timecode records without Connectiv at all by using external PHONO pres and plugging them into the Projectmix inputs>TORQ.

Is there any current workaround for using two soundcards in Windows XP?

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 9:51 pm

glitch I don't understand why you need to reroute torq to record on an audio track when it has rewire, could you explain?

glitchrock-buddha · Post by **glitchrock-buddha** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 11:19 pm

stale bread wrote:glitch I don't understand why you need to reroute torq to record on an audio track when it has rewire, could you explain?

I'd love to.

If you rewire the torq software into ableton Live, the audio stays completely inside the computer. So I can move the record back and forth and the audio will reverse and move accordingly. This only a small part of scratching though. The cross-fader is the most important thing. So how, when all the audio is inside the computer, do I use my mixer for cuts? Well, you output from the torq hardware into your mixer, and from your mixer into your soundcard, then the mixer is controlling the levels.

The only other way to possibly be able to scratch without going out to your mixer, is if you had a software mixer/crossfader, controlled by midi. You could probably use ableton's crossfader, but then you would need a really good hardware midi crossfade to control it. The software would have to have a quick cut setting (an instantaneous on/off type curve) and the hardwarew would have to feel like a real dj mixer, nice and loose (which I would have to buy). On top of that, the latency would have to be amazingly low, which I am distrustful about with midi control, 'cause crabbing needs very quick response. Anyways, I've got a mixer that I"m happy with the feel of, so I'd rather just use that.

Ya dig?

From what I've seen, people tend to use this kind of thing with separate computers for the digital scratching and the recording side. But I don't want to get another computer, so I gotta do it like above.

If you know of a better way, I'm all ears.

grb

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 8:21 am

ahh i see, , 'mental block'

I want torq for the same reasons you do so this should have made sense to me.

Patch · Post by **Patch** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:15 am

Shit. Looks like I'm gonna be stumped here. I'm about to set up my laptop with an Ultralite - but I'll be using all 8 outs on the Ultralite to go to the 4 channels on my DJM. Looks like I won't have a spare out for the timecoded audio to go back into the mixer.

This means: NO SCRATCHIN'!!!

glitchrock-buddha · Post by **glitchrock-buddha** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:51 am

Patch wrote:Shit. Looks like I'm gonna be stumped here. I'm about to set up my laptop with an Ultralite - but I'll be using all 8 outs on the Ultralite to go to the 4 channels on my DJM. Looks like I won't have a spare out for the timecoded audio to go back into the mixer.

This means: NO SCRATCHIN'!!!

But if you're using torq you don't need to use extra outputs from your soundcard. The torq hardware takes care of that via usb like any usb soundcard. It brings the audio out of the computer and goes to your mixer. You just need a stereo input on your soundcard to capture audio from your mixer.

...which means: scratchin'!

edit: I had said "you don't need to use outputs from your mixer", but I meant " you don't need to use outputs from your soundcard".