Scratching using live

JahGuide · Post by **JahGuide** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:11 pm

Can you do scratching with live like you would on a regular turntable?

How can this be done what do I need to do?

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:21 pm

no. there are surely some ways in which you might be able to make scratch-like noises, but no

buy a torq and rewire it into live

JahGuide · Post by **JahGuide** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:27 pm

Ok thanks. But what is the point of it being touted as such a Djing tool if you cant do something as basic as scratching? DJ's still do this right?

kabuki · Post by **kabuki** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:28 pm

TURNTABLISTS scratch.

DJs play other people's music.

kabuki · Post by **kabuki** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:29 pm

BUT... I wonder if the new Sampler has controlls for scrubbing forward and revers that would emulate scratching...

Spiralgroove · Post by **Spiralgroove** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:30 pm

you can trigger samples of scratches

use enough different ones along w/ some fx and quantize them all and you can make some pretty ridiculous scratch sequences

its easy to get carried away with though

wilxon · Post by **wilxon** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:34 pm

How can you scratch like you do on a deck with a computer???

Its a good dj tool because you can do things that you cant on decks or with any other interface.

Scratching is only 1 thing that DJ's may choose to do, those DJ's may choose decks or final scratch.

The magic of using LIve to Dj is that you can really strip tunes down, loop certain parts, add projects that you are currently working on to test them, run as many tracks as you like, add effects, controll lights, do your own visuals at the same time.

Possibilities are now a lot more advanced from what one can do with 2 records and 1 mixer.

Scratch DJ's will stick to decs because its their working platform, Live DJ's do so to get away from that fixed platform.

JahGuide · Post by **JahGuide** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:34 pm

kabuki wrote:TURNTABLISTS scratch.

DJs play other people's music.

I agree but it would be nice to able to do this in live dont you think. I love the program tho and I refuse to use anything else. Except for Reqson of course.

wilxon · Post by **wilxon** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:36 pm

maybe on the wish list for Live 7 you could intergrate the Final Scratch hardware into live so that you could run loops from external timecode.

That would make things interesting.

JahGuide · Post by **JahGuide** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:37 pm

I am not a scratch DJ or a DJ for that matter. I am a producer. But I am planning on DJ'ing soon. I just thought it would be nice to have that option in live.

joe90 · Post by **joe90** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:38 pm

you can already do this in live with mspinky + the pinky pluggin !

JahGuide · Post by **JahGuide** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:38 pm

Spiralgroove wrote:you can trigger samples of scratches

use enough different ones along w/ some fx and quantize them all and you can make some pretty ridiculous scratch sequences

its easy to get carried away with though

That sounds like a good idea I will try this.

wilxon · Post by **wilxon** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:40 pm

JahGuide wrote:I am not a scratch DJ or a DJ for that matter. I am a producer. But I am planning on DJ'ing soon. I just thought it would be nice to have that option in live.

When you start djing in live you will see hat there is a lot of other - better things you can do, and you wont have time in an unplanned set to even think about adding some scratches.

With all of the filter and beat based effects you can do some pretty cool stuff.

robin · Post by **robin** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:42 pm

wilxon wrote:maybe on the wish list for Live 7 you could intergrate the Final Scratch hardware into live so that you could run loops from external timecode.

That would make things interesting.

TORQ is as close to that as we're ever going to get I thnk.

Personally I've never been that good at scratching (I'm a house, techno, electro and disco dj) so don't feel the loss.

Indeed I've hardly ever seen a DJ that isn't a hiphop dj successfully scratch (and make it sound good). Apart from maybe some of the harder techno djs like Claude Young and DJ Bone. Oh yeah and not forgetting the amazing Terrence Parker.

I like the ability to edit and loop tracks pretty much on the fly etc etc much more.

kooki415 · Post by **kooki415** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:49 pm

unless your a turntablist...

scratch sounds were overplayed in the early nineties..

especially ones not coming from turntables..