Scratching using live

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:01 pm

I don't know how to explain it.... this thread is funny in so many ways, I don't think i've ever seen such polite 'not for scratching post'.

ps. all sounds were overplayed in the 90s

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:42 am

so what's this about no timecode vinyl on the torq while rewired??

DeadlyKungFu · Post by **DeadlyKungFu** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:15 am

Download the .als in this thread, good example of how to set up clips for a simulated scratch routine.

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33790

lero · Post by **lero** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:33 am

stale bread wrote:I don't know how to explain it.... this thread is funny in so many ways, I don't think i've ever seen such polite 'not for scratching post'.

FINALLY!!!!!I thought I was the only one that had this impression!!This thread is waaay too

Patch · Post by **Patch** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:45 am

JahGuide wrote:I am not a scratch DJ or a DJ for that matter. I am a producer. But I am planning on DJ'ing soon. I just thought it would be nice to have that option in live.

But you want to be able to scratch in Live? That is like saying:

I am not a writer - I have never done Grafitti in my life. I am a landscape artist. But I have just bought Coreldraw. It would be nice if I could do Grafitti in Coreldraw

There are loads of ways to emulate scratching using software - Live included. But you have to have the theory of scratching down first.

If you can't scratch - then samples are your only option.

eddit · Post by **eddit** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 8:54 am

Theres a few dodgy versions of Herbie Hancock - Rockit, where the scratching was replaced with a wierd filtered keyboard sound, i think basically white noise being enevloped. Its usually the one you get on really crappy hits of the 80s records from bargain stores. You wouldn't notice unless you listen closely.

If DJing in live was everything i can do on vinyl MINUS scratching, it would suck.

But its not

olli06 · Post by **olli06** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:08 am

Here's a great free scratch plugin. It's not bad really.

http://destroyfx.smartelectronix.com/so ... .1.0b6.dmg

chil,
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Patch · Post by **Patch** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:07 am

If you know how to scratch. If you know anything about turntable transcript methodology. If you can visualise a scratch as a movement/time single line graph - then you should check out FruityLoops "Wavetraveller".

THAT - is a cool plugin. I use FL as a plugin in Live all the time.

wilxon · Post by **wilxon** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:41 am

Patch wrote:If you know how to scratch. If you know anything about turntable transcript methodology. If you can visualise a scratch as a movement/time single line graph - then you should check out FruityLoops "Wavetraveller".

THAT - is a cool plugin. I use FL as a plugin in Live all the time.

its cool but you dont have the ability to reverse the sample, its just a speed the sample up and slow it down effect.

Scratching usualy has the dj pulling the record backwards thus in reverse before allowing it to travel in the correct direction again.

If the y axis was speed emulating a record and you could get it to stop, and then start playing the sample backwards from that stop point, then that would be cool.

i think ableton should do this in Live 7, i use 2 LV1 faderfoxes, so i also have 2 crossfaders. It would be really coll to add the second cross fader to an effect where i could effectivly spin the record backwards during a live set.

Ill add this to the live 7 wish list i think.

Patch · Post by **Patch** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:55 am

wilxon wrote:its cool but you dont have the ability to reverse the sample, its just a speed the sample up and slow it down effect.

Incorrect.

Using Wavetraveller you can control every element you can with a turntable and a mixer. IE -

·Direction of sample
·Speed of sample
·Volume/cut in/cut out of sample

These are the only 3 components of scratching (I'm not counting EQ controlled scratches).

I love Wavetraveller.

Also good for realtime Fruity Scratching is (surprisingly) FruityScratcher. There is a workaround that lets you use a DM2 in conjunction with FruityScratcher - that is sweet...

wilxon · Post by **wilxon** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:03 pm

i will be having a good play with that later on when i get home

sounds cool

Patch · Post by **Patch** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:07 pm

Check it out, wilxon:

POW!

The more I delve into it, the more I realise - FruityLoops is NOT the toy that it looks like!

Have fun, son!

wilxon · Post by **wilxon** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 12:15 pm

i know what you mean

I was using fl3 years ago before going solid with Cubase SL,

I found myself running out of ideas when creating loops, so i turned back to FLoops and got FL6 and i was back in a fun zone creating some wsome loops.

Now the more i use it, the more i like it.

Fruity scratcher will work as a plugin in live

I must admit, ive seen that hundereds of times and never once thouht to check it out.

Lovin these fun-to-use progs like Live & Floops.

Just got cubase 4 upgrade, i hope Live and FL have VST3 support on the next updates.