[ot] - kim jong ill, nuclear at last!

[mikemc]

Sorry, it was apparently the Hennessey Kim has the taste for, NOT Dom Perignon.

My abject apologies for slandering the Great Benevolent Protector of the Korean People.

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[djadonis206]

Take your WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE!!!

[subterFUSE]

Apparently, the single biggest customer for Dom Perignon is Pyongyang. Kim has developed a taste for Hennessy VSOP cognac (although I should think he would prefer Remy Martin Louis XIII; I sure do)

Serious cognac drinkers tend to prefer Hennessy over Louis XIII.


I'm with Kim on this one.

[Tone Deft]

De Ladies Man pwefers Courvoisier.

[knotkranky]

[simpleton]

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Didn't that dude play with Def Leppard?

[pulsoc]

The question is.... how do you get China to help? They have been unwilling to do so for years. China benefits from instability in the region. That is why they have not been helping. So how do we change this?

The answer is by giving nukes to Japan. Do that, and suddenly China has a rather vested interest in preventing conflict in the region.

Or maybe we should cut off the supply off wealth to China - from the American consumer.

Or would that be unpatriotic?

That affects us economically, and it's too hard to implement quickly.

Giving nukes to Japan is a quick fix.... and doesn't harm our own interests.

Wow you're a genius. Give nukes to a nation we just KICKED THE SHIT OUT OF AND NUKED LIKE 60 YEARS AGO. It wasn't too long ago when the Japanese were THE threat in Asia, invading every Pacific coast country in Asia and running death camps.

Using the same brilliant strategy pioneered by Reagan and Rumsfeld supplying Hussein with chemical weapons in the 1980's.

But hey, with MY strategy we couldn't get undervalue durables that we don't need. Fuck that liberal swine.

[DeadlyKungFu]

Giving nukes to Japan is a quick fix.... and doesn't harm our own interests.

Further nuclear proliferation is the absolutely WRONG answer, there are other ways to combat nukes and the people who have them than than to pass out more nukes.

That's like cutting back on school shootings by handing out guns.



I could see Lil Kim assasinated, I could see saboteurs and defectors, but that's all so James Bond. I bet the UN takes a stake in all this and we starve them out. Lil Kim is severely hurting his countrymen, regimes fall. China and Japan are big boys, they can handle it with US and UN backing.

[knotkranky]

Give nukes to a nation we just KICKED THE SHIT OUT OF AND NUKED LIKE 60 YEARS AGO.

[simpleton]

The answer is by giving nukes to Japan. Do that, and suddenly China has a rather vested interest in preventing conflict in the region.

Or maybe we should cut off the supply off wealth to China - from the American consumer.

The problem is that China owns us(the west) economically. We're joined at the hip- can't threaten them with squat. The answer is give the nukes to our pals the Japs and nuke the gooks by proxy. That'll scare the shit out of China 'cause they know Japan can come up with some exotic weapons that'll make their shit look like bows & arrows. The Russians will poop their pants too.
I call it the doctrine of Pre-emptive Proliferation.

[subterFUSE]

Or maybe we should cut off the supply off wealth to China - from the American consumer.

Or would that be unpatriotic?

That affects us economically, and it's too hard to implement quickly.

Giving nukes to Japan is a quick fix.... and doesn't harm our own interests.

Wow you're a genius. Give nukes to a nation we just KICKED THE SHIT OUT OF AND NUKED LIKE 60 YEARS AGO. It wasn't too long ago when the Japanese were THE threat in Asia, invading every Pacific coast country in Asia and running death camps.

Using the same brilliant strategy pioneered by Reagan and Rumsfeld supplying Hussein with chemical weapons in the 1980's.

But hey, with MY strategy we couldn't get undervalue durables that we don't need. Fuck that liberal swine.

I think it is a good idea.

60 years ago is a long time. Times are different now. Japan is a strong ally now.

As M Breqs has said before.... you can annilhilate an enemy with overwhelming force, and the result can be peace in the future. We did it to Japan, and they are an ally now. We did it to Germany, and the same goes for them.

North Korea HAS NUCLEAR WEAPONS. They are not supposed to, but they do. At this point, we have to address this situation. There isn't a direct military option, because of South Korea. And obviously sanctions won't do any good. The United Nations is a failed institution, and we can't expect any results in that arena. What else is left? The only thing that is left is for China to cut off North Korea. But China isn't going to do that, just because we ask. China benefits from this situation. So... we have to find a situation where China does not benefit. That situation is a nuclear Japan.

[subterFUSE]

Giving nukes to Japan is a quick fix.... and doesn't harm our own interests.

Further nuclear proliferation is the absolutely WRONG answer, there are other ways to combat nukes and the people who have them than than to pass out more nukes.

That's like cutting back on school shootings by handing out guns.



I could see Lil Kim assasinated, I could see saboteurs and defectors, but that's all so James Bond. I bet the UN takes a stake in all this and we starve them out. Lil Kim is severely hurting his countrymen, regimes fall. China and Japan are big boys, they can handle it with US and UN backing.

I respectfully disagree.


I think the school example you give is slightly off-base.


I think this situation is more like imposing gun control laws in the USA. The bad guys are going to get guns, by illegal means. With gun laws, you only prevent law abiding citizens from defending themselves. People can violate the laws, and acquire the weapons. And without a counter balance, criminals will reign the day.

I believe that the only reason we did not have WWIII for 60 years following the bombings on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was because of nuclear weapons. Both sides had them. And both sides knew it.... and knew the consequences. The situation was a stalemate. Neither side could act for fear of retaliation.

Look.... I really don't want nuclear weapons to be spread around to everyone freely. That's not what I am advocating. In a perfect world, we wouldn't have them. I wish we lived in that world. I wish everyone could get along, and live in peace. But this isn't a perfect world. And North Korea now has nuclear technology. And they will sell it to anyone who will pay for it, including people who want detonate them in the USA to kill as many civilians as possible. They must be stopped before this happens.

[forge]

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Didn't that dude play with Def Leppard?

[knotkranky]

Giving nukes to Japan is a quick fix.... and doesn't harm our own interests.

Further nuclear proliferation is the absolutely WRONG answer, there are other ways to combat nukes and the people who have them than than to pass out more nukes.

That's like cutting back on school shootings by handing out guns.



I could see Lil Kim assasinated, I could see saboteurs and defectors, but that's all so James Bond. I bet the UN takes a stake in all this and we starve them out. Lil Kim is severely hurting his countrymen, regimes fall. China and Japan are big boys, they can handle it with US and UN backing.

I respectfully disagree.


I think the school example you give is slightly off-base.


I think this situation is more like imposing gun control laws in the USA. The bad guys are going to get guns, by illegal means. With gun laws, you only prevent law abiding citizens from defending themselves. People can violate the laws, and acquire the weapons. And without a counter balance, criminals will reign the day.

I believe that the only reason we did not have WWIII for 60 years following the bombings on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was because of nuclear weapons. Both sides had them. And both sides knew it.... and knew the consequences. The situation was a stalemate. Neither side could act for fear of retaliation.

Look.... I really don't want nuclear weapons to be spread around to everyone freely. That's not what I am advocating. In a perfect world, we wouldn't have them. I wish we lived in that world. I wish everyone could get along, and live in peace. But this isn't a perfect world. And North Korea now has nuclear technology. And they will sell it to anyone who will pay for it, including people who want detonate them in the USA to kill as many civilians as possible. They must be stopped before this happens.

Well, I don't know. What's the difference if we let them make some, or we give them a bunch. We don't get off the hook by allowing Japan to make them anyway. Japan's gotta want them too. Have you seen them on the world map. Small, dense and easily crushed. One step away from china's huge stockpile and easily within Dong distance. And I guess we're going to sit back and say; hey don't look at us we're like way over here and don't have much influence with japan. Oh, their crazy, watch out China and North Korea.

[subterFUSE]

Well, I don't know. What's the difference if we let them make some, or we give them a bunch. We don't get off the hook by allowing Japan to make them anyway. Japan's gotta want them too. Have you seen them on the world map. Small, dense and easily crushed. One step away from china's huge stockpile and easily within Dong distance. And I guess we're going to sit back and say; hey don't look at us we're like way over here and don't have much influence with japan. Oh, their crazy, watch out China and North Korea.

North Korea is, frankly, not much of a threat to the USA directly. Even if they had missiles which could reach the USA, which they don't.... we could probably knock them out of the sky as easily as shooting skeet. And we could turn North Korea into a steaming hole in the ground, with so much residual radiation that any organic lifeform which comes near it for the next 50 years would melt like a stick of butter in a microwave.


No.... Attacking the USA directly isn't really the concern here.

Selling nukes to Iran or Syria, who then hand them over to terrorists... THAT is the real danger.

The other danger is that South Korea is an easy target. And despite what most of you people on this forum think.... we do care about South Korea getting attacked.

There isn't a military option against a nuclear North Korea, because of South Korea. They can't hit us in the USA.... and they know it. But they can hit Seoul, and kill 10 million people.