[OT] Any vegans here?

[frankie123]

Give the guy a break. He ain't all there...

He's fully entitled to his viewpoint, and we should respect that.

dude blow me. Really. It's always the same idiots on my back around here. Petty antagonism. You want to live in ignorance, on a lower vibration, go for it. I am not forcing you to do anything.

Err_Eur could you do the thread a favor and knock down your font a bit, its kind of annoying when your posts continually take up half the page, no offense.

[Kodama]

dude blow me. Really. It's always the same idiots on my back around here. Petty antagonism. You want to live in ignorance, on a lower vibration, go for it. I am not forcing you to do anything.

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Lower vibration was a pretty good flick but it got kinda gross toward then end.

S'pose I'm more vanilla than that?

[djadonis206]

MEAT

You know it's coming, where it came from and how it got there

MEAT - if you saw it get hit by a truck, scraped off the ground, ground up and then served to you - it might be a little different

again, it's so easy to talk when you aren't the one feeling the pain, or even doing the killing.

Curious how would you would know how a cow feels?

and how you would know any other persons experiences in life to assume someone has or hasn't felt any pain?

how do you come to that conclusion?

are you in fact a real cow who lost a hind quarter?

[Kodama]

Yeah man, like, ummm I dunno how kids in asia feel so like they could love being sold by their parents to work in factories making stuff.

So it's actually all cool anyways, I mean who am I to say that child slavery is wrong?

That would be arrogant!

[djadonis206]

Are we talking about animals or kids in china?

[mike holiday]

Animals getting killed for food ain't pretty, but thats how its always been. I usually try to eat meat from organic farms due to animal treatment. I ain't quitting meat though

see frankie .. the thing is is that no one here is telling you not to eat meat..
so why are you trying to tell people TO eat meat

thats the clincher there ..

if a person choses not to eat meat let them, to try and stop them is wrong

meat is not necessary for healthy survival

[frankie123]

Animals getting killed for food ain't pretty, but thats how its always been. I usually try to eat meat from organic farms due to animal treatment. I ain't quitting meat though

see frankie .. the thing is is that no one here is telling you not to eat meat..
so why are you trying to tell people TO eat meat

thats the clincher there ..

if a person choses not to eat meat let them, to try and stop them is wrong

meat is not necessary for healthy survival

For the record, I'm not pushing my diet on anybody. Meat is necessary depending on what you want to do.

[err_eur]

Meat is necessary depending on what you want to do.

once long ago it may have been to provide the necessary proteins. That is no longer the case. If it's an issue of proteins, the vegetable protein is a much better choice anyways as it is more stable after the vegetable has been harvested compared to animal proteins which break down at a much faster rate after the animal is killed.

to demonstrate this simply leave a raw steak out on a plate at room temperature and a bowl of some type of beans and see which one rots more quickly.

but the real issue is that people like the taste, and they refuse to give it up regardless of the fact that another entity must suffer in order for them to satisfy their desires. It is a simple black and white choice.

[frankie123]

Meat is necessary depending on what you want to do.

once long ago it may have been to provide the necessary proteins. That is no longer the case. If it's an issue of proteins, the vegetable protein is a much better choice anyways as it is more stable after the vegetable has been harvested compared to animal proteins which break down at a much faster rate after the animal is killed.

to demonstrate this simply leave a raw steak out on a plate at room temperature and a bowl of some type of beans and see which one rots more quickly.

but the real issue is that people like the taste, and they refuse to give it up regardless of the fact that another entity must suffer in order for them to satisfy their desires. It is a simple black and white choice.

Like I said, It depends what you want to do. If you need to gain lots of mass and muscle for a sport, It will be much easier to do it with a meat diet.

[Kodama]

Are we talking about animals or kids in china?

Animalistic kids in the recesses of the jungle making Nike & iPods with their teeth before they die in ritualistic knife combat or become proudly scarred and limp back to their slave duties, the odor of rotting worms on their breath.

Didn't you read up on this stuff?

Have you no heart?

[mike holiday]

Like I said, It depends what you want to do. If you need to gain lots of mass and muscle for a sport, It will be much easier to do it with a meat diet.

there really arnt to many bodybuilders in the world

i'm an extremely active, back-county downhill skier. and never have a loss of energy due to my diet.

imho there arn't to many things more physically grueling then hiking up a mountain in 3 feet of snow(three hour accent 2 minute decent). plus i can usually average 60+ days at the resort a winter.

to stear someone away from giving up meat because they "might" not be able to build up muscle mass and bulk at the same rate is kinda silly. i mean if this peson was a bodybuilder they would probably be on a different eating path as it is...

[frankie123]

Like I said, It depends what you want to do. If you need to gain lots of mass and muscle for a sport, It will be much easier to do it with a meat diet.

there really arnt to many bodybuilders in the world

i'm an extremely active, back-county downhill skier. and never have a loss of energy due to my diet.

imho there arn't to many things more physically grueling then hiking up a mountain in 3 feet of snow(three hour accent 2 minute decent). plus i can usually average 60+ days at the resort a winter.

to stear someone away from giving up meat because they "might" not be able to build up muscle mass and bulk at the same rate is kinda silly. i mean if this peson was a bodybuilder they would probably be on a different eating path as it is...

I'm not steering anybody away from anything. All I know Is I personally would not be where I am physically if it weren't for a meat diet.

[horselesspaul]

For me it's vegan or dead since 1990. I play football, don't break into little pieces and can run and run.
i can sleep at night. But it's my choice and I don't evangelise. Eat what the f*ck you like, just make sure you enjoy it and that you've thought about it.
The rest is just bull....

Oh and this forum might help the bodybuilders amongst us...http://www.veganfitness.net/forum/viewf ... 8080729dc4

[djadonis206]

Are we talking about animals or kids in china?

Animalistic kids in the recesses of the jungle making Nike & iPods with their teeth before they die in ritualistic knife combat or become proudly scarred and limp back to their slave duties, the odor of rotting worms on their breath.

Didn't you read up on this stuff?

Have you no heart?

I did a report on Slave labor in high School or sometime there after

but the topic is vegan and the subject matter had come down to whether animals could feel the same way humans feel and how one human can know how a animal (namely a cow) feels when it's being slaughtered

But for the record I am against child slavery

[eyeknow]

not really anythign to do with being a vegan but this will be my FIFTH week this weekend with no booze and fags, and doing proper exercise - i cant really believe the difference mentaly and physically - dont think i will ever go back!

That is fucking AWSOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dude, I'm certain we all support your endevers................those are two toughies..........