Guitar/Bass tuner VST/AU for live? (Mac OSX)

[bondegi]

I've been on the hunt for a plugin tuner to use in Live for awhile now.

I have found a few AU's, but all were written in Cocoa and the GUI doesnt show up in Live.

I know of a few standalone tuners as well, but i would really like a plugin.

Any mac users found a plugin tuner that works well in Live?

I'm not opposed to paying a reasonable price, but of course freeware is a plus!

[BassTooth]

i only use electronic tuners to augment my tuning style. i use either a tuning fork tuned to 440Hz(A) or Live's own test tone generator, which you can access by bringing up preferences and clicking on audio tab then test tone off button to on. tune your bass or guitar by plucking the 12th fret harmonic on the A string. then tune the rest of the guitar/bass by either 5th or 7th fret harmonics, everyones tuning style is different. some musicans are very supersticious about tuning, and there is really no right or wrong way, so its best to develop your own style.

i find electronic tuners to be very unreliable and vary greatly.
i've heard alot of old wives tales when i was learning guitar like "don't use electronic tuners, or you'll go tone deaf" stuff like that, i don't know how true that is tho. anybody else hear stuff like that? or have a tuning style/ritual?

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hs ... tnG=Search

[DeadlyKungFu]

I'm a PC guy, i use GTune for PC, found this for Mac
http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/Guitar_Tuner/
http://www.gieson.com/Library/projects/utilities/tuner/
http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/morei ... vid=153062
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&hs=W ... ac&spell=1


The cool thing about a VST tuner is that you have a tuner on hand instantly and you can tune in a noisy environment. I LOVE Gtune on the PC, so damn handy!!! Try a VST and check the results with your own ears, it's far from rocket science, pretty basic DSP code. Some hand held guitar tuners I have are better than others, some are really flaky, one I have nails the note instantly, very stable. I can see problems with simple hardware, cheap vs. accurate. Saving a few pennies in a design matters when you ship 3,000,000 of them. My little Korg GA20 has been great.


on the guitar player stuff... <copping attitude here>
Tuning the 5th fret to the next open string (moving up in pitch on the strings, nose to toes) or the 12th fret harmonic to 7th fretted note on the next string up in pitch. (adjust for the 'b' string with both methods.) The first method gets the axe in tune when playing closer to the nut, the latter works better when playing higher up. i prefer the latter, just for the range it gives me.

Ignore the haters who say stuff about tuners making you go tone deaf (it IS good practice, but so is playing an tuned instrument), you know the arrogant guitar playing types, they'll say you have to use alkaline batteries rather than rechargables in you pedals to get a warm tone, shut up and play is my response . I'm sure you know what I mean. Guitar players 'can' be serious a-holes, you wouldn't want to jam with those guys anyway. There's even talk that you want to tune slightly flat so that when you push down the string it goes up in pitch anyway, and on and on and on...

[bondegi]

I hear ya basstooth, i already found the test tone trick. That works great (and i use it all the time) in the studio but, as DKF points out, a plugin tuner would be really handy for tuning quickly in a live context, which is why im looking.

Thanks for the links DKF, but those plugs were written in Cocoa and Live doesnt show their GUI's when you load em up... so they really are pointless... ASFAIK only logic and garage band support AU's made with Cocoa. Maybe i should ask why doesn't live support Cocoa AU's?

In my search i have found that there are tonnes of tuner plugs available for the PC! Surely there must be one out there that works on a mac, in Live?

The search continues...

[mariner]

I've been on the hunt for a plugin tuner to use in Live for awhile now.

I have found a few AU's, but all were written in Cocoa and the GUI doesnt show up in Live.

I know of a few standalone tuners as well, but i would really like a plugin.

Any mac users found a plugin tuner that works well in Live?

I'm not opposed to paying a reasonable price, but of course freeware is a plus!

any luck?

I can't find anything.

...even GarageBand has a guitar tuner.

-m

[pixelbox]

i only use electronic tuners to augment my tuning style. i use either a tuning fork tuned to 440Hz(A) or Live's own test tone generator, which you can access by bringing up preferences and clicking on audio tab then test tone off button to on. tune your bass or guitar by plucking the 12th fret harmonic on the A string. then tune the rest of the guitar/bass by either 5th or 7th fret harmonics, everyones tuning style is different. some musicans are very supersticious about tuning, and there is really no right or wrong way, so its best to develop your own style.

i find electronic tuners to be very unreliable and vary greatly.
i've heard alot of old wives tales when i was learning guitar like "don't use electronic tuners, or you'll go tone deaf" stuff like that, i don't know how true that is tho. anybody else hear stuff like that? or have a tuning style/ritual?

As for me, I also use a pitch fork or the test tone generator to get an initial A @ 440, but that is where our similarities end.

I don't use harmonics to tune. I strictly use fretting (5-5-5-4-5), because harmonics can sometimes sound off due to overtones. If your guitar is intonated properly, the fretted notes will be more correct in pitch.

I tune up in a general way by ear, and then I use an electronic tuner to fine-tune. If you use a $10 tuner, expect $10 results. If you buy a Petersen strobe tuner or a higher model Korg (like the rack mounted one), you can feel secure that your fine tuning is not in vain.

Going tone deaf by using a tuner? Ridiculous! If anything, your ear will improve because you get used to hearing the spot on correct pitch over and over again. Using a good tuner, and listening to a correctly intonated and tuned instrument will improve your ear, not make you tone deaf...unless possibly you stick your head right in front of your Marshall stack and crank it to 11 every time you tune.

[jamesp]

http://www.petersontuners.com/index.cfm?category=74