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Post by Cryptic UK » Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:18 am

He isnt being serious for fucksake
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Post by wilxon » Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:50 am

I always thought that Hip Hop was constructed of loops taken most ly from old motown and soul - from th elikes of james brown using the beat jugling technique that scratch dj's use with a pai of decks, mixer and 2 records of the same nature.

Scratch the beats and rap the lyrics.


If you want to create phat beetz, you need some phat samples, which you can probably get from using a little EQ, and effects.

I would think you would be well suited with Fruity Loops.

Live would be too much for you.

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Post by minimal » Wed Oct 25, 2006 10:57 am

Meef Chaloin wrote:arse

read the manual for fucksake
can you indicate the pages please I have been reading the manuals of version 3, 4, 5 and 6 but I haven't found any "HowToMakeHipHopBeats" chapter... :twisted:

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Post by suburbanbather » Wed Oct 25, 2006 11:29 am

wilxon wrote:I always thought that Hip Hop was constructed of loops taken most ly from old motown and soul - from th elikes of james brown using the beat jugling technique that scratch dj's use with a pai of decks, mixer and 2 records of the same nature.
Do they still do this in the Hip hop today. I thought that method went out along with Public Enemy, Run DMC, NWA, etc........

Lately, whenever I do hear some Hip hop. The beats sound more like they are from a drummachine ala 808 or 909. BOOOOOOOOOOOM tat tat.

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Post by wilxon » Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:22 pm

yes, just throwing a cat in amongs the pigeons.


Jazzy jeff does this very well, i saw him in nottingham about 3 years ago.

My mate phil, more commonly known as the Furious Pig (UK DMC Finalist, winner of Birmingham heat 2006) is part of a hip hop group consisting of 4 mc's and 2 Dj's - that is hip hop.

No drum machines, just a bunch of guys (4 of which including him are white btw) and a few records.

My opinion is hat hip hop has become so commercialised by the likes of jay - z, 50 cent, buster rhymes, etc etc that it is no longer the way it should be, the reason why hip hop was introduced is now gone.


Nigaaaaazz.


Im into techno BTW, and not a big fan of hip hop, unless i see the technicall ability on the decks, and a good MC.

When its done the proper way its cool

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Post by wilxon » Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:26 pm

addition to above

I think this is more of the true African way to do hip hop,

Its the american way to cash in on commercialism by creating crap hip hop.

I think it should be given another name like Am-hop, so you can distinguish between the two.

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Post by wilxon » Wed Oct 25, 2006 12:36 pm

oohh


i hate hip hop.

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Post by jamester » Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:42 pm

wilxon wrote:addition to above

I think this is more of the true African way to do hip hop,

Its the american way to cash in on commercialism by creating crap hip hop.

I think it should be given another name like Am-hop, so you can distinguish between the two.
What???

There is no "African Hip-Hop" or "American Hip-Hop" - it's all American. Like the blues and jazz, hip-hop is is distinctly an original American creation.

Scratching JB breaks, "two turntables and a microphone" style was part of the original style, but technology has definitely influenced and changed how hip-hop's created. While the MPC is far from dead, and there will always be a place for 'Funky Drummer', the fact is that producers will use whatever technology thay can get their hands on...and these days that includes Pro Tools as well as live musicians as well as MPC's as well as....
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Post by LOFA » Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:21 pm

This is my favorite short EVER...:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgjwjaBJ5Do

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Post by wilxon » Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:33 pm

jamester wrote:
wilxon wrote:addition to above

I think this is more of the true African way to do hip hop,

Its the american way to cash in on commercialism by creating crap hip hop.

I think it should be given another name like Am-hop, so you can distinguish between the two.
What???

There is no "African Hip-Hop" or "American Hip-Hop" - it's all American. Like the blues and jazz, hip-hop is is distinctly an original American creation.

Scratching JB breaks, "two turntables and a microphone" style was part of the original style, but technology has definitely influenced and changed how hip-hop's created. While the MPC is far from dead, and there will always be a place for 'Funky Drummer', the fact is that producers will use whatever technology thay can get their hands on...and these days that includes Pro Tools as well as live musicians as well as MPC's as well as....
You get quite a lot of african hip hop.

Its all american????

Are you american???

If so -- appreciate that there is a whole world out there outside of america.

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Post by wilxon » Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:36 pm

I dont personally like much hip hop, and my knowledge is not great,

but the African Hip Hop scene is massive, i was listening to a radio show a year ago that featured the african groups in a city in Niger.

In Africa

Where it all began

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Post by So Solid Poo » Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:45 pm

wilxon wrote:my knowledge is not great,
das 4 mudafuckin shure
shit did start hin afreeka do dumbazz got dat much rite

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Post by frankie123 » Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:48 pm

So Solid Poo wrote:
wilxon wrote:my knowledge is not great,
das 4 mudafuckin shure
shit did start hin afreeka do dumbazz got dat much rite
Hip hop did not start in africa, both of you are idiots.
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Post by Tone Deft » Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:49 pm

frankie123 wrote:
So Solid Poo wrote:
wilxon wrote:my knowledge is not great,
das 4 mudafuckin shure
shit did start hin afreeka do dumbazz got dat much rite
Hip hop did not start in africa, both of you are idiots.
it's about the drumming.

chill the attitude man, what's with the name calling?

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Post by So Solid Poo » Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:51 pm

hellz ya tone deft ur allright bra
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