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question to CDJ owners

Post by sweetjesus » Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:52 pm

i would like to ask you guys how accurate is the bpm change?

i cant dj very well, but i would like to use CDJ's as a locked groove source which i can scratch over Live.

it would be nice to have something on a cd which the original source was renderes out at 125 bpm. if i then play a 128 bpm track from Live and thus adjust the cdj + 3.0 bpm.. it should be in perfect bpm as the choon playing in Live.

Now tell me, what CDJ's are capable of this accuracy in bpm adjustments.

much thanks
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Post by Spiralgroove » Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:16 pm

pitch control on decks is %s not "beats"

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Re: question to CDJ owners

Post by Adonis » Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:20 pm

sweetjesus wrote:i would like to ask you guys how accurate is the bpm change?

i cant dj very well, but i would like to use CDJ's as a locked groove source which i can scratch over Live.

it would be nice to have something on a cd which the original source was renderes out at 125 bpm. if i then play a 128 bpm track from Live and thus adjust the cdj + 3.0 bpm.. it should be in perfect bpm as the choon playing in Live.

Now tell me, what CDJ's are capable of this accuracy in bpm adjustments.

much thanks
sj
Pioneer's

When I do get the opportunity to play on them I'm completely blown away at how locked they stay on tempo - you can match the beat and go about your business, you don't really have to ride the fader

http://pioneerdj.com

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Post by sweetjesus » Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:27 pm

Adonis wrote:
sweetjesus wrote:i would like to ask you guys how accurate is the bpm change?

i cant dj very well, but i would like to use CDJ's as a locked groove source which i can scratch over Live.

it would be nice to have something on a cd which the original source was renderes out at 125 bpm. if i then play a 128 bpm track from Live and thus adjust the cdj + 3.0 bpm.. it should be in perfect bpm as the choon playing in Live.

Now tell me, what CDJ's are capable of this accuracy in bpm adjustments.

much thanks
sj
Pioneer's

When I do get the opportunity to play on them I'm completely blown away at how locked they stay on tempo - you can match the beat and go about your business, you don't really have to ride the fader

http://pioneerdj.com

peace
word man

you fiddled with the 200's or only the cdj1000's (the kickass one if i got the wrong model)? ive toyed with 1000 (?) mk1's many years ago

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Post by Adonis » Wed Nov 01, 2006 4:34 pm

haven't really touched the 200's - I used to play on the 100's when I did a radio show back in the day but I've been pretty fortunate to play on the 1000's

they say the 800's are pretty much the 1000's - just a little scaled down...a friend of mine said she tried to mix on the 200's and it really wasn't working out for her...so I don't know

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Post by belmiro » Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:05 pm

The 200's are awesome m8...there isn't any real difference that I can ascertain between the 200's and the 800's and certainly not in regard to locking onto the beat.

I have a pair of 200's and you cant really go wrong with them for the price.

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Post by phil909 » Wed Nov 01, 2006 5:33 pm

the 1000's will not dift at all once your speeds are aligned.
i suggest you render out your track at say, 125bpm, then set your live project to 125bpm.

there's a speed lock button on the cdj100, press this. your 2 tunes (1 on ableton, 1 on the cdj) will stay in perfect time forever.

if you live in the uk, i have 2 cdj 100's for sale on ebay at the moment. they are killer machines....

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Post by Adonis » Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:14 pm

I heard the optimum tempo is 133

could be wrong -

most of the music I buy is usually between 133 and 136 <-- make mixing a hell of a lot easier as I'm not on polar opposites of the pitch sliders

might work in this situation -

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Post by robbmasters » Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:29 pm

Adonis wrote:a friend of mine said she tried to mix on the 200's and it really wasn't working out for her...
I used to do a particular live "mash-up" in some of my sets. I could always get the beats in perfect sync on the 1000s, and they'd then stay in sync. When I tried it on the 100s they drifted. (I figure the 200s will behave similarly to the 100s, and the 800s will behave similarly to the 1000s.)

I understand lots of people are unhappy with the 800 Mk2. Something to do with the algorithm for pitch shifting /master tempo. So I'd recommend the 1000s (you won't regret it) or even the 800 Mk 1.
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Re: question to CDJ owners

Post by BOT_ALPHA » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:32 pm

I was thinking about routing CDJ 1000's through a sound card to Ableton, to use some of the effects from live, and then further routing that to a DJM 800. I don't thing you could directly link CDJ 1000's or older to any software without Serato or Traktor control disks though.

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Re: question to CDJ owners

Post by Airyck » Wed Sep 10, 2014 8:36 pm

This thread is 8 years old FYI
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