ot: Rumsfield Resigns, now let the the impeachment begin

subterFUSE · Post by **subterFUSE** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:25 am

D DAS wrote:well your right they don't want to impeach, but at leasit it is the first step to his administration crumbling. they have broken the law the and investigations need to happen.

i agree they are the left and right arms of a bigger beast, but we need that left arm now in control. the right arm was wanking it way to much and shotting loads all over the place.

no fear and loathing in seasame street, it is someones bad ass photoshop creation

You are stating as fact claims which have not yet been proven, and I disagree with it.

forge · Post by **forge** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:29 am

subterFUSE wrote:
D DAS wrote: no fear and loathing in seasame street, it is someones bad ass photoshop creation

You are stating as fact claims which have not yet been proven, and I disagree with it.

DeadlyKungFu · Post by **DeadlyKungFu** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:31 am

forge wrote:
subterFUSE wrote:
D DAS wrote: no fear and loathing in seasame street, it is someones bad ass photoshop creation

You are stating as fact claims which have not yet been proven, and I disagree with it.

+1

Forge you'll hit 7k posts within the hour at this rate!

subterFUSE · Post by **subterFUSE** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:31 am

Forge.

You know I was talking about this:

D DAS wrote:well your right they don't want to impeach, but at leasit it is the first step to his administration crumbling. they have broken the law the and investigations need to happen.

i agree they are the left and right arms of a bigger beast, but we need that left arm now in control. the right arm was wanking it way to much and shotting loads all over the place.

Pitch Black · Post by **Pitch Black** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:31 am

forge · Post by **forge** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:33 am

subterFUSE wrote: You are stating as fact claims which have not yet been proven, and I disagree with it.

well, it's nice that you trust them

but "not yet been proven" is the key here

if you really value your democracy then you should want it to be investigated

if those bastards could waste so much time and money trying to impeach Clinton for getting a blowjob, then it stands to reason sending the country to war, plunging Iraq into chaos and killing hundreds of thousands is a pretty good reason too and should at least be investigated

forge · Post by **forge** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:34 am

DeadlyKungFu wrote:
Forge you'll hit 7k posts within the hour at this rate!

oh shit...time to get a new login.....

subterFUSE · Post by **subterFUSE** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 1:39 am

forge wrote:
subterFUSE wrote: You are stating as fact claims which have not yet been proven, and I disagree with it.
well, it's nice that you trust them

but "not yet been proven" is the key here

if you really value your democracy then you should want it to be investigated

if those bastards could waste so much time and money trying to impeach Clinton for getting a blowjob, then it stands to reason sending the country to war, plunging Iraq into chaos and killing hundreds of thousands is a pretty good reason too and should at least be investigated

Well.... if my predictions about impeachment hurting Hillary's chances in 2008 are accurate..... then YES, by all means... bring it on.

Machinesworking · Post by **Machinesworking** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:04 am

subterFUSE wrote:Well.... if my predictions about impeachment hurting Hillary's chances in 2008 are accurate..... then YES, by all means... bring it on.

I don't get it? Personally if I were a republican I would really want hillary as the democratic choice, absolutely.
there's one thing this country hates as a whole with no impunity, and that's weakness. Whether or not Hillary deserves the psychological stigma or not, her silence on her husbands infidelity, and the fact her husband cheated on her in the first place, all point towards weakness. I would be happy as hell if I were a republican if Hillary was nominated as democratic choice.
Now before anybody judges me about saying this, it has NOTHING to do with any opinion I may have on the issue, it's just simple examination of the psychological profile of the country.
Another reason for republicans to be happy if Hillary gets nominated, this country loves "bubba's". One thing Hillary is not, is a 'bubba', her husband was, but not her.

Not that any of the presidents I'll mention actually are, or were down home rednecks, but they all could come across that way.
Since Nixon, Bubba's (or down home, good old boys) have come out on top in the elections, Reagon, Clinton, GWB, all bubba's! Look at their competition,
Reagon had Carter, and Mondale,
Clinton had Dole and Bush Sr.
GWB had Gore and Kerry.

The only Bubba type competition there is Carter, and he had the hostage crisis, coupled with a recession.

We love rednecks, if the democrats want to win they have to find another Clinton type who can give a goofy laugh and tell a down home story like GWB can.

Basically Americans are retarded, we want uncle Clem to keep the neighbors in line and whittle us up an economy!

forge · Post by **forge** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 3:19 am

Machinesworking wrote: Basically Americans are retarded, we want uncle Clem to keep the neighbors in line and whittle us up an economy!

seems like the problem is the US should really split

it's obvious what's going wrong here is the rednecks are breeding too much so there is too big a population of them

Some folk'll never eat a skunk
and then again some folk'll,
like Cletus the Slack-Jawed Yokel!

D DAS · Post by **D DAS** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 8:56 am

subterFUSE wrote:
D DAS wrote:well your right they don't want to impeach, but at leasit it is the first step to his administration crumbling. they have broken the law the and investigations need to happen.

i agree they are the left and right arms of a bigger beast, but we need that left arm now in control. the right arm was wanking it way to much and shotting loads all over the place.

no fear and loathing in seasame street, it is someones bad ass photoshop creation

You are stating as fact claims which have not yet been proven, and I disagree with it.

bush has told many lies to the people, that is a fact, that is illegal, that deserves punishment.

clinton lied to the people about a bj and got the cross,

bush has lied to the people about not wire tapping citizens, (which in its self is illegal,)

bush has lied about not having secret torture camps, (which in its self is illegal, breaking both national and international law.)

and you are disagreeing with the fact that he has broke the law? where have you been the last 6 years?

those are just two of many lies told, but enough to rest my case. to lie to the people is illegal. to lie to the people about illegal activity you are conducting is twice as illegal.

and that is not counting the war crimes they will be guilty of if the coward democrats will truly investigate. fyi, to bring this nation into a war based on a pile of lies is treason, punishment death. that war is a crock of shit and has been since day one. it had nothing to do with saadam or al quada. it was about power and multi billion dollar contracts going to the companies that help put bush the puppet were he is today.

d~

kooki415 · Post by **kooki415** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:17 am

meh. who needs impeachment when you could have a warcrimes tribunal?

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:35 am

Like he cares. He'll be "raptured" soon enough

Impeachment will do nothing...
It's 6 years into his run, I bet they already trained a new puppet.

Just look at the change of behaviour of John Mcain.
Around the guantanamo thing, he looked like a very decent candidate.
Because you would think that he would keep the geneva pact as it is, having been a POW.

But now, he's just become Bush's lapdog.

eyeknow · Post by **eyeknow** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:05 am

It may have been mentioned but I'm too lazy to go through every post.....

Who was the last successfully impeached prez? And.....what good did it do?

exactly.

Bush is not really any different than clinton, nixon (who resigned before being impeached) , etc...........frankly, his "plate" has been way too full for him or any in the "administration" to handle.

I'm no "w" bush lover, but he's just another politician that people can climb on.......

NEXT!

ethios4 · Post by **ethios4** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:30 pm

Machinesworking wrote: I don't get it? Personally if I were a republican I would really want hillary as the democratic choice, absolutely.

Spot on assessment of Hilary/rednecks/American politics, I'd say. Sometimes I wonder whose side the Democrats are on...Hillary is such an obviously BAD choice...she will NEVER win, because of her ties to Bill, because of her "weakness", because she is a woman, and because she can easily be portrayed as a New York intellectual-liberal.

Kerry has an amazing knack for saying idiotic things at the absolute worst time....so much so that it's hard for me to believe they are accidents. He was so bad during the debates, he almost had me siding with Bush, whom I've been against since 2000.

Americans will, at this point, not elect an intellectual, a "weak" candidate, a woman, a non-"white" person, or anyone perceived as too "radical".