should i move to ableton? (deejaying)

212121 · Post by **212121** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:47 pm

heyyyyyyyyyyy

what about my questions??????? LOL

robin · Post by **robin** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 9:51 pm

212121 wrote:heyyyyyyyyyyy

what about my questions??????? LOL

Which pads? The big ones? Map them to whatever you like....clip start, solo, kills etc

Map them to the set end and set start points and unloop/loop

212121 · Post by **212121** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:32 am

i still dont understand if i need a mixer or not... how do you output the sound from the sound-interface? can it connect to XLR speakers that you find in most clubs and are used by mixers?

robin · Post by **robin** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:38 am

212121 wrote:i still dont understand if i need a mixer or not... how do you output the sound from the sound-interface? can it connect to XLR speakers that you find in most clubs and are used by mixers?

You really need to read more carefully. We've answered this.

The simplest way is just to take one stereo feed off your soundcard and plug that in to a spare line level input on the DJ mixer that the other Djs will be using (Line/CD NOT phono input). Fade that channel up and that is the output from your laptop then adjust the gain accordingly on the mixer. You then don't need into touch this while you play with your laptop/midicontroller during your set.

I think that's clear, but if not just shout.

212121 · Post by **212121** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:41 am

thanks for the reply

i can output RCA from my interface to a mixer and then it would output to the club speakers, can i work with single channels in ableton and send each track to a separete channel in the mixer and then mix like if it was a cd or vinyl?

is it necesary to have a mixer to output sound from a audio-interface for the normal XLR speakers that you find in most clubs?

thanks!

robin · Post by **robin** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 11:48 am

212121 wrote:thanks for the reply

i can output RCA from my interface to a mixer and then it would output to the club speakers, can i work with single channels in ableton and send each track to a separete channel in the mixer and then mix like if it was a cd or vinyl?

yes that is also an option IF you have enough outputs on your soundcard/audiointerface.

is it necesary to have a mixer to output sound from a audio-interface for the normal XLR speakers that you find in most clubs?

Most PA engineers (or the club/bar owner) wouldn't let you near the back of the speakers. I'm not a PA expert but most of the time the PA has it's own mixer (locked away to prevent DJs cranking it up on the night) which the DJ mixer then plugs into.

It is technically possible given the right output (or combination of adapters) to plug straight into a powered PA stack but I'd always want to have an audio mixer in between the two (like I do with my powered near field monitors that are sat in front of me. My laptop goes into a mackie 1202 and then into the nearfields).

212121 · Post by **212121** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:30 pm

sorry i dont even know what a PA is lol, i mean.. there has to be a XLR cable conecting to the mixer!

DeadlyKungFu · Post by **DeadlyKungFu** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 7:37 pm

212121 wrote:sorry i dont even know what a PA is lol, i mean.. there has to be a XLR cable conecting to the mixer!

PA - public address, used as a term for the main sound system in a room.

XLR is much more preferable out of your mixer because it's probably a BALANCED OUTPUT signal. Balanced outputs are ideal for electrically noisy places and sending a signal a 'long' distance (long being relative to the amount of noise.) Anyway, with balanced outputs the noise gets cancelled much more effectively.

With balanced there are 3 signals, a positive, a negative and a neutral. Positive and negative are opposite polarities of each other, the audio is the difference between those two signals, so the receiver subtracts them.
pos - neg = signal
On top of that you have noise, and because the pos and neg run through the same physical space they're succeptible to the SAME noise, which is great.
(pos + noise) - (neg + noise) = signal
pos - neg + noise - noise = signal
pos - neg = signal
wooot!! the noise gets subtracted out.

with rca outs or single ended outs the noise isn't subtracted. differential outs are key gear if you plan on playing out regularly, or be sure to set up real close to the house mixer.

coffee hit me great this morning...

212121 · Post by **212121** » Fri Nov 17, 2006 9:06 pm

thanks for the reply!

if i play in a club or a party where other cd/vinyl deejays play using the mixer i need to use rca from my audio-interface to the mixer, right?

but at home... i need a mixer just to get the sound out from the audio-interface? :(