Time Stretching For House Based Tracks

yamisoez · Post by **yamisoez** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 6:47 am

I would appreciate anyones feedback on this, I tried to look through the back posts and could not find information...

After I warp an acapella in live 5.2 that has low bpms (r&b) lets say destiny's child Cater...65bpm I Have found I can put a nice hip hop beat or take the track up to about 100bpms and it will still sound good....

What if I want to do a house remix with the same r&b track I have tried upping the tempo to 120 -130 but its sounds either too fast or slightly chipmonked. I have heared some nce rnb house like mixes that uses rnb slow jams and they sound good stretched at 120 - 128 so I must be doing somethig wrong or is there differet software being used...

everyone loves my rnb & hip hop mixes an mash ups, but I really want to expand and do some house or lub versions of the same genre

Please help me out I will appreciate any feedback, tips, tricks....

Thanks n advance ......

Nav · Post by **Nav** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:05 am

What warp mode are you using, try a different one perhaps?

yamisoez · Post by **yamisoez** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:47 am

I have used all modes, maily stic with beas and complex as they have provided the best results....

The track warps fine, the issue is once I increase the tempo to 125 from 65 the track seems to fast and chipmonked a litte...

I thought in live this was one of the best time sretchers on the market so I must be doing something incrrectly....

Nav · Post by **Nav** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:28 am

Can you half the bpm of the sample in the warp section?

look for seq bpm

2: 2*

difference · Post by **difference** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 8:56 am

Cut the vocals up into phrases and use the in a different rhythmical context.

difference · Post by **difference** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:04 am

difference wrote:Cut the vocals up into phrases and use the in a different rhythmical context.

Also, a combination of pitch shifting and warping can work, if you want to use the same timing on the vocals. You need to remember you are changing the key when you pitch shift, but that's cool. You can pitch up slightly then warp so you are timestretching a smaller difference in tempo, or you can pitch up a bit so that you can more or less double the tempo without much timestretching involved.

noiseconjecture · Post by **noiseconjecture** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:34 am

I don't know for sure but I think people may use something like Melodyne for complicated pitch shifting. Also you could put the vocal track in arrangement view and put markers at the beginning of each word, cut the audio, and then you can change the tempo without altering the pitch or speed of individual words. Craig Anderton wrote about it in Sound on Sound recently.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr06/a ... h_0406.htm

DJ VAKIS · Post by **DJ VAKIS** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:57 pm

difference wrote:Cut the vocals up into phrases and use the in a different rhythmical context.

This is the way i doit.

yamisoez · Post by **yamisoez** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:56 pm

I JUST WANETD TO TAKE A SECOND TO THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING A SECOND TO HELP.I WILL TRY ALL THE INFO PROVIDED AND READ THE ARTICLE PROVIDED..

THANKSAGAIN...DJ DINAMX

mike holiday · Post by **mike holiday** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:18 pm

half of 130 is 65 so 65 should work without streaching

tell live the tempo is double what it is and see how it works