remote zero sl or Bitstream 3x????????

ravebot · Post by **ravebot** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:35 am

its for making electro breakbeats and drum and bass
im sooooooo freaken lost dont know wat to get

ravebot · Post by **ravebot** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:56 am

dosnt look like alot of pplz have got it
seems to me that more pplz have zero sl

Meef Chaloin · Post by **Meef Chaloin** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:17 pm

id get bitstream, but then perhaps there is a reason why not many people have it.

Patch · Post by **Patch** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:24 pm

I really like the look of the SL ZERO. Apart from the dodgy fingertip faders!

Cryptic UK · Post by **Cryptic UK** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:55 pm

I havent heard anything bad about the bitstream yet, i think i might get one soon.

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:06 pm

http://abletonlivedj.com/forum/viewtopi ... =bitstream

http://abletonlivedj.com/forum/viewtopi ... =bitstream

http://abletonlivedj.com/forum/viewtopi ... =bitstream

http://abletonlivedj.com/forum/viewtopi ... =bitstream

darclex · Post by **darclex** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:04 pm

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oQoG_ZCZt7Q

dude, you should get an sl zero

AUTOMAP, yay!

M. Bréqs · Post by **M. Bréqs** » Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:31 pm

Well, they're both pretty advanced controllers.

However, with the addition of the arpegiator in Live, a lot of the Bitstream's appeal disappears (it's powerful arp). Plus, who cares if you can record movement within the bitstream when you can record automation in Live?

The SL is much more powerful.

However, the SL is built a bit shoddy. Crap plastic faders, difficult to grab, they're not for a turntablist that's for sure!!!

ravebot · Post by **ravebot** » Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:25 am

i did alot of forum research and looks like the remote zero sl is the winner
cheers guyz

joeman · Post by **joeman** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 8:43 am

As a owner of the bitstream 3X, I must say it is much more powerful than the remote SL, the metal case make is robust, the Mackie control emulation works great, the unique LFO and other automations make it very attractive.
This is my point of view, I saw the remote in a shop and it's really plastic cheap compared to the bitstream 3X.
I also heard that about 10% of the remote are coming back to the distributor with faulty buttons.

itook4lefts · Post by **itook4lefts** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:30 am

joeman wrote:As a owner of the bitstream 3X, I must say it is much more powerful than the remote SL, the metal case make is robust, the Mackie control emulation works great, the unique LFO and other automations make it very attractive.
This is my point of view, I saw the remote in a shop and it's really plastic cheap compared to the bitstream 3X.
I also heard that about 10% of the remote are coming back to the distributor with faulty buttons.

have you got one of the original ones (back when they were made by bitstream themselves and cost like double what they do now), or a more recent one made by CME? my understanding was that there was quite a difference between the two (though i suspect recent bitstreams are no better/worse than the SLzero)

corygilbert · Post by **corygilbert** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:12 pm

anybody whos got the bitstream, post up.
I'm considering the same situation, anybody know where I could demo a bitstream? I'd like to compare feel myself.
bumpity bumpity bump

joeman · Post by **joeman** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:33 am

I just received the latest version from CME, I heard there were some units with problems (like remote sl) on the first serie shipped from CME.

This new serie is ok, at least mine ! From what I understand that's why there was a delay between the first and second serie from CME, build quality has been largely improved.

Regarding the automations of the bitstream, I agree that the motion sampling available on the controller can be done in Live, but I do not intend to control only Live, I also own hardware instruments and other soft where the motion sampler will be handled by the Bitstream.

itook4lefts · Post by **itook4lefts** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:50 am

that's good to know. i was kind of surprised to read there were problems with build - my brother has one of their controller keyboards and it's really nice, especially for the money.

i like the idea of the motio sampler too. like you say, you can use it on hardware (though, again, that can be done natively in live). it gives you the option of recordeing things in a similar way to clip envelopes, but totally without the computer.

dancing Ray · Post by **dancing Ray** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:41 am

I first was disappointed by the Bitstream ´cause the faders and pots are not much different than those of the Novations. So I think the crossfader is not what a DJ would want. I´m not a DJ but I remember a crossfader feeling different... it may be sufficient for some mixing, though.

That said, I´ve been working with the Bitstream for two or three month now, and have nothing to moan about it. The supersolid metalbody gives a pretty good feel but keep in mind that you´ve got to carry it around.

To check it with your own fingers just send me a message and I´ll happily invite you to my rehearsal room...

remote zero sl or Bitstream 3x????????

remote zero sl or Bitstream 3x????????

dude...get an sl zero