Live and Hip Hop

SMOOTH_LOVIN_CYCLOPS · Post by **SMOOTH_LOVIN_CYCLOPS** » Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:15 am

[quote="enthawizeguy"]Alright... so ive been on here a while and never here anyone talking about making hip hop tracks on live.quote]

YO AH MAKE BEETS O. YUO TRIN BATTLE YO? I WAS SEMPT TO DIS EARF TO EJUCATE DAH FOOLZ YO I AIN PLAYIN B.

YA HEARD?

BinaryB · Post by **BinaryB** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:34 am

Enots wrote:I make hiphop using Live. link in my sig

Your sig says

"Christ Jesus is King "

Dont you mean Christain Rap ?

Hip Hop is music.

Nothing to do with Jesus or Elvis.

Enots · Post by **Enots** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:18 am

BinaryB wrote:
Enots wrote:I make hiphop using Live. link in my sig
Your sig says

"Christ Jesus is King "

Dont you mean Christain Rap ?

Hip Hop is music.

Nothing to do with Jesus or Elvis.

Christ is King, and I mean I make Hip Hop (music). Hip Hop is a culture, and like all cultures, I seek to see them submitted to Christ. Each culture retaining it's distinctive forms of art, dress, language, etc. yet submitted to the will of Christ that we were all created for whether we admit it or not. We were made in His image, not randomly flown together by floating space particles.

Just as it's completely silly to think that a systematically organized record that bears the spelndor and artistic qualities of an artist could somehow be compiled on it's own from random pieces of studio gear in the world that just happened to float its way into one studio and record itself- it's even sillier to think that we have no director who has placed us in the whole mesh of His design. Just like bad notes we fall off. Which is why I teach repentance and that faith in Christ is desperately needed because none of our deeds can earn us enough credit to quell the wrath of God when we have all (including myself- you too) disobeyed Him. But He's provided a way that we can be justified and it's through faith in His Son Jesus Christ. So again I'll say, Christ is King.

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leisuremuffin · Post by **leisuremuffin** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:58 am

hey tony, that's cool, believe what you want to.

please excuse Binary's missive, not all of us non-christians are so rude.

However, please remember that not everybody enjoys belief in a god that runs the universe in the way that a mafia boss runs a crime syndicate.

since your vengeful anthropomorphic god is self-admitedly jealous, i will await a better offer from one of those he is jealous of.

best regards,
muffin

PS : I will pray for your enlightenment, that you may you drink from the spring and truly know if the water is hot or cold.

BinaryB · Post by **BinaryB** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:03 pm

leisuremuffin wrote:hey tony, that's cool, believe what you want to.

please excuse Binary's missive, not all of us non-christians are so rude.

Yeah muffin.
And some are passive aggressive
or use exagerated language to elevate their feelings of self importance.

Enots wrote:
Hip Hop is a culture, and like all cultures, I seek to see them submitted to Christ.

That is rude.

Just because you are depandant on that to get over your insecurities,
dont push your "salvation" onto other people.

"They say shoving is worse than pushing.
But I'de rather know a shover than a pusher
cause a pusher's a jerk"

... DeLaSoul

Hip Hop is not Christain Rap... ask anyone on MySpace.

'muff said.

leisuremuffin · Post by **leisuremuffin** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:05 pm

Whatever you wish to believe is fine by me as well, Binary. But you *are* a dick. I'm sure i'm not the first to tell you.

.lm.

Rogue Scrunt · Post by **Rogue Scrunt** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:25 pm

Fuck Jesus!

now I'mma dick to.

leisuremuffin · Post by **leisuremuffin** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:32 pm

naaah, that's ok. you'll have to try harder to earn "dick status" from me.

.lm.

Rogue Scrunt · Post by **Rogue Scrunt** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:11 pm

word, I actually don't feel that way. I'm just stirring the shit stick.

it is too snowy to drive to my studio.

ikke · Post by **ikke** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:22 pm

Willyum wrote:
v00d00ppl wrote:ok the way you layer drums in live is have another session of impulse running and arm both tracks at once, arming both tracks at once can be done by going under preferences and making sure exclusive tracks is removed on the miscelaneous tab.

but yea i switched from mpc 1000 and sold it for a good laptop and live and i really havebn't regretted anything yet, if i want to chop i can chop better using adobe audition. what's cool about live is you can really tighten your sequences quicker or lkossen it much faster than an mpc 1000.

as for buying guru or battery, whynot invest in a good auduio editor like adobe audition? because all you really need to do with your samples is slice it and then if you want drum rolls within impulse just use the midi effects plugins involved with live and that should help.
Another way to layer drums in 5 is to create a second track with impulse and take the 'midi from' your first drum track, click the 'in button. the benifit to doing it this way is that you can then load the scale plugin to determine which drum triggers the drum you want to layer. so if the drum on pad 2 is to trigger the drum on pad 6 on the other impulse, you can change the midi routing in the scale tool. (if you need to trigger 3 or more, add the chord tool with the scale tool (some Live secretes))

And for chopping, you can just drag your sample to an empty track, turn off the grid (important), highlight the section of the sample you want to use and hit 'ctrl + E' and you have an instant chop....repeat for all the sections you need chopped......
Create an Impulse on a midi track now drag and drop those chops you just made onto the pads. No outside tools needed.
If you have altered the sound before chopping (FX, time strech, tuning, etc), and you need to carry that sound to the impulse, just make a copy then consolidate or else when you drag and drop, sample will not be warped or have FX settings.

Consolidate saves the file with all the new settings, truncate, volume, warped, FX, EQ, offset....anything (no need for external editor). But copy sound first so you do not rewrite the original. if you want, export new edited sound back into your sound library for future use.

Live is good for Hip Hop even though I don't like the sounds that come with Live. I always use outside sounds for that good boom bap (sample cd's or records, tapes, whatever..... Go to online production battle sites and download thier battle packages... usualy really dope sounds and thick drums)

consolidating does not do that! you need to bounce the file to have it rendered with fx ... obviously

soulata · Post by **soulata** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:02 pm

Enots wrote:[Each culture retaining it's distinctive forms of art, dress, language, etc. yet submitted to the will of Christ that we were all created for whether we admit it or not.

There are probably 4 fifths of the world that'd have something to say against that statement.

It's their bad luck that the christian west has more weapons.

no need to discuss religion here anyway.

jamester · Post by **jamester** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:55 pm

Brainwashed people are scary...doesn't matter what their belief is.

ikke · Post by **ikke** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:11 pm

so are we gonna talk about fundamentalists or hiphop and live?
you folks go off topic rather quickly around here

BinaryB · Post by **BinaryB** » Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:34 pm

leisuremuffin wrote:hey tony, that's cool, believe what you want to.

please excuse Binary's missive, not all of us non-christians are so rude.

That sounds like Emo-Punk

leisuremuffin wrote:
Whatever you wish to believe is fine by me as well, Binary.
But you *are* a dick.
I'm sure i'm not the first to tell you.

Nice attitude but that aint Hip Hop either...

Whatever You got to say
I dont want to hear it
Tastes like Raw Beef
Smells like Teen Spirit.

no you *are*

enthawizeguy · Post by **enthawizeguy** » Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:53 am

this thread became retarded.... and i wasn't saying anything about the guys video being bad.. it was sick but obviously it was a touchy subject for some people, oh well. i wish the motif vst that the new cubase supposivly has cause... i am hoping to have a completly portable setup with just ableton and my macbook and i haven't found any vsts yet close to my motif.

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