How do you think does our heroes produce their tracks ?

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
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Post by STRATEGY_510 » Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:46 pm

rahlo wrote:
Contra wrote:hey what about my hero??? Pete Rock!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co__eHlCFJs


classic pat benatar!
ain't too many cats can touch petey!
Give me Primo over PR any day.

PR is nice though


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Post by STRATEGY_510 » Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:52 pm

hat wrote:fo' real y'all.
I went to a friend's house yesterday, to jam, make some noise, etc., and was amazed to see and discover how other people work. He doesn't have much but churned out some amazing beats and bits of music which left me speechless and re-affirmed that the gear/amount of it means nothing. He had a couple of cheap casio keybards and a kaoss pad 2, which he would sometimes throw samples from vinyl, then he records everything into garage band on the mac. I kid you not they were some of the most interesting beats I've ever heard, little rhtyhms coming from the casios which sounded nice and dirty and glitchy, just in the way he just manipulated the kaoss pad in real-time, he just went with it, then adding voices on top, cheap Casios that sounded like Air or even M83 because of the processing, simple and amazing.

And then there's some of us with GB upon GB's of loops and samples, with powerful tool like Live, Reason, ProTools, etc., and we often sit there and stare at the screen like a painter without oils and brushes, like a deer in headlights, sigh...


Use what you have, impose limitations, just go for it, create, create, create, it's a beautiful thing...



awesome post, some of my best DJ mixes I ever did was when I was broke in te early nineties and made mixes with ONE shitty $90 turntable, half-broke Realistic (radio shack) mixer and a shitty Fostex cassette 4-track.



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Post by SubFunk » Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:57 pm

STRATEGY_510 wrote:
hat wrote:fo' real y'all.
I went to a friend's house yesterday, to jam, make some noise, etc., and was amazed to see and discover how other people work. He doesn't have much but churned out some amazing beats and bits of music which left me speechless and re-affirmed that the gear/amount of it means nothing. He had a couple of cheap casio keybards and a kaoss pad 2, which he would sometimes throw samples from vinyl, then he records everything into garage band on the mac. I kid you not they were some of the most interesting beats I've ever heard, little rhtyhms coming from the casios which sounded nice and dirty and glitchy, just in the way he just manipulated the kaoss pad in real-time, he just went with it, then adding voices on top, cheap Casios that sounded like Air or even M83 because of the processing, simple and amazing.

And then there's some of us with GB upon GB's of loops and samples, with powerful tool like Live, Reason, ProTools, etc., and we often sit there and stare at the screen like a painter without oils and brushes, like a deer in headlights, sigh...


Use what you have, impose limitations, just go for it, create, create, create, it's a beautiful thing...



awesome post, some of my best DJ mixes I ever did was when I was broke in te early nineties and made mixes with ONE shitty $90 turntable, half-broke Realistic (radio shack) mixer and a shitty Fostex cassette 4-track.



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Post by leisuremuffin » Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:13 pm

all pro's use a slicer.


without a slicer, electronic music cannot be made.





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Post by Tarekith » Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:18 pm

Al Twisted wrote:
wilxon wrote:Speedy J just creates loads of loops whenever he gets time to, uses programms like photoshop to mess the sound up and stuff like that,
Photoshop????
Yes, in combination with apps like MetaSynth.

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Post by Contra » Thu Dec 14, 2006 3:50 pm

STRATEGY_510 wrote:
rahlo wrote:
Contra wrote:hey what about my hero??? Pete Rock!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co__eHlCFJs


classic pat benatar!
ain't too many cats can touch petey!
Give me Primo over PR any day.

PR is nice though



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primo is maaaaaad nice, but to this day PR is droppin some FIYA....while the last hot trak primo dropped was skillz(and maybe other shit here and there)

but you can say at times their styles do get repetitive....
How about Blueprint(not as old) but brought some heat on illogic's Celestial Clockwork, if you havent heard it, i suggest you do.

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Post by Johnisfaster » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:44 pm

wilxon wrote:Speedy J....uses programms like photoshop to mess the sound up and stuff like that,
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(I paraphrased that quote fyi)

uses photoshop to mess up the sound? what? using some sort of bitmap to audio conversion?
It was as if someone shook up a 6 foot can of blood soda and suddenly popped the top.

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Post by ethios4 » Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:26 pm

I definitely believe in the minimalist setup, and it's easy to get bogged down in gear-lust and having a shitload of plugins.....but the fact is that a very nice EQ plugin sounds WAAAAAAAAY better than Live's EQ, and there just no way around that. Sure you can work with Live's EQ to create a certain sound, but you will never get Live's EQ to sound lilke a nice linear-phase EQ.

So, yes, stick to a minimal plugin list, but that doesn't mean its bad or not creative to use nice plugins.

Oh, and +1 to the fact that most accomplished artists don't spend their time on forums!!!! I was complaining to my wife that I never have time to work on music, and she pointed out that if I used the time I spent on the forum making music, I would have lots of time....and she was right!! 99% of the time its a bunch of people who haven't gotten very far arguing in circles.... no offence, I'm in the same boat, but wasting time here doesn't get us very far at all....

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Post by paolo topaz » Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:45 am

I'd love to just spend a few hours watching Axwell,Tocadisco or trentmoller work through a track from start to finish, putting their style and your music taste aside, I really love see just ho they seem to produce that 'phat' time and time again. AFAIK they're all Logic users, but that surely is just cos Logic has been around longer.

does anyone have any insight in the above producers set up or mo?

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Post by D K » Fri Dec 15, 2006 4:41 am

my heroes use whatever is available, and are not limited to computers.

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Post by b0unce » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:26 am

Image
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Post by D K » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:44 am

b0unce wrote:Image
is that a picture of you, bounce?
you look like an elderly tom jenkins....

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Post by b0unce » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:46 am

hoho - thats shane macgowan, man
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Post by D K » Fri Dec 15, 2006 6:57 am

holy shit, i worked some pogues shows and a few macgowan shows back in the day...
fuck, he's always looked bad but he's just falling to bits...didn't even recognize him!

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Post by b0unce » Fri Dec 15, 2006 7:04 am

check out the tits on yer wan
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