New Macs. Switching and sharing OS's on the fly w/ Parallels

knotkranky · Post by **knotkranky** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:28 am

Ok, anybody out there doing this with live and Parallels and any other music apps. Looks like I'm figuring out a way to get me a new mac.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTKz9llQ ... ed&search=

ze2be · Post by **ze2be** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:21 am

knotkranky wrote:Ok, anybody out there doing this with live and Parallels and any other music apps. Looks like I'm figuring out a way to get me a new mac.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTKz9llQ ... ed&search=

Amazing! Is parallels a program? What is bootcamps role in this setup?

Makes me want a mac again..

R.J.Dubya · Post by **R.J.Dubya** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:06 am

Hey, ya I'm using parallels quite often on my macbook. It's pretty sweet, and the file sharing is nice. You basically set a shared folder between the two OS''s, and then anything you want to copy over, you just stick in the sharded folder and either one can access it. I don't use parallels for music though, I use the mac OS for all of that. I just use windows for office and other software like ArcGIS and things I need. Last I heard, midi wasn't working in parallels, but maybe it is now, dunno. I don't use bootamp at all, rather not partition my hardrive. Parallels just assigns a certain amount of disc space for the virtual machine. It's pretty cool though, you can even copy and paste between the two OS's, and the latest beta even let's you open windows apps directly inside OSX. It's defintely worth the money. Still, I wouldn't bother using it for music apps, 'cause it won't be nearly as fast, and there will inevitably be minor problems you just don't want to deal with when making tunes.

rjw

ze2be · Post by **ze2be** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:37 am

R.J.Dubya wrote:Hey, ya I'm using parallels quite often on my macbook. It's pretty sweet, and the file sharing is nice. You basically set a shared folder between the two OS''s, and then anything you want to copy over, you just stick in the sharded folder and either one can access it. I don't use parallels for music though, I use the mac OS for all of that. I just use windows for office and other software like ArcGIS and things I need. Last I heard, midi wasn't working in parallels, but maybe it is now, dunno. I don't use bootamp at all, rather not partition my hardrive. Parallels just assigns a certain amount of disc space for the virtual machine. It's pretty cool though, you can even copy and paste between the two OS's, and the latest beta even let's you open windows apps directly inside OSX. It's defintely worth the money. Still, I wouldn't bother using it for music apps, 'cause it won't be nearly as fast, and there will inevitably be minor problems you just don't want to deal with when making tunes.

rjw

Alright, im not in a hurry of purcasing a new machine anyway. But ill have a lookaout of this in the future.. Can you play new 3d games like HL2 on it? Does all the ports work in XP? firewire port, usb ports etc..

muscleandhate · Post by **muscleandhate** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:08 pm

My God! Why is his computer screaming!? I need to get myself 2GB of ram!

Pasha · Post by **Pasha** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 12:19 pm

Hi
I have tested the open beta (no need to own parallels) and looks and plays sweet. I wouldn't recommend parallels to make music for latency would be involved. It might act as a test bed but nothing more than that. The ability to launch Windows programs as if they were Apple windows is amazing (still needs refinement...hey it's a beta).
At the same time google and download the latest vmware beta for Macs. It's called Fusion and offers native dual core support. It seems VmWare is doing well and they have more experience on the Virtual Machine side. MIDI works in VMWare (I have still to test parallels), so you can control your external gear if you do not own a compatible librarian with OSX.

- Best
- Pasha

stinky · Post by **stinky** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:43 pm

I use BootCamp and Parallels for Bootcamp (the new beta that just came out 2 weeks ago), and it was a bitch to setup properly, but i'm having no issues, and everything runs perfect!

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:57 pm

I use Parallels to run Wavelab for mastering work still, work fine for that. You obivously aren't going to get super low latency or anything, and it eats up a ton of RAM (don't even bother if you have less than 1GB), but other than that it works surprisingly well.

zappen · Post by **zappen** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 3:33 pm

not surprising to see a macbook run both those os, there days the apple OS is closer to MS OS as never been before, it would be a joke to run osx on any pcs, apple just don't want it, what a pussy,,, btw someone in the meanwhile found their own way

within and without wmware
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2tAhXHPfBs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWX9XTTy_CY

knotkranky · Post by **knotkranky** » Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:48 pm

G'morning. Thanks fellas, glad to hear it doesn't suck. T, you're mastering in xp and fast switching to X?, hmm, my mind is now washed out with software possibilities. I saw anothe vid running 3 OS's (redhat). Googles bid sounds cool too. They seem to have a bunch of software coming out soon. OSX on a dell! well, well. well. Where have i been! I can't wait for the who's computer can run all the OS's contest. I guess the speed wars are really on now and I suppose were down to who makes the kick ass motherboards! 07 is already the year of choices overload.

slashthrough · Post by **slashthrough** » Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:15 pm

Hey all,
I've been using Paralells on a Macbook Core Duo 2GHz 2GB RAM and it is pretty cool. I don't have a lot of uses for Windows, but I have been able to run Propellerheads Rebirth (never had a whole lot of luck with "Classic" mode in OS X.)
To answer some people's questions, you don't need to be partitioned with Boot Camp but the new version of Parallels (in Beta) will support using a Boot Camp partition with your VM.
Also, another guy mentioned the Beta of VMWare for OS X. The good news is that it's trivial to convert most VMWare VM's to a Parellels VM! See: http://www.virtualizationdaily.com/arch ... llels.html
For the guy that asked about 3D games, no it's not supported. I couldn't run UT2004 PC.
Peace and guerrilla funk,

Jamie P.

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 1:20 am

knotkranky wrote:T, you're mastering in xp and fast switching to X?, hmm, my mind is now washed out with software possibilities.

Yeah, I use OPSX all the time, and just open Parallels to run Wavelab for mastering tunes. Works great, like I mentioned, surprsingly fast and responsive for running as an emulation/VM.

Contra · Post by **Contra** » Sun Dec 24, 2006 2:45 am

for the newer4 shipments of macs , do you have to have this pre installed??
because im not into using anything on XP i use everything on OS X and would rather avoid using up the hard drive space, same with bootcamp is it like that too?
or are they optional?