Logic Pro vs Live for Recording acoustic guitars

warmdog · Post by **warmdog** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:00 pm

Okay, might be a stupid thread and also have been covered. sorry!
Anyways, my friend and I are about to record. we have some decebt gear, we're just not sure about what software to use?? we both know 'Live' very well though not 'Logic'. Is there any reason we shouldn't record the record in Live? also we're only recording acoustic guitars through an edirol Ua-5 with two condensers.

Musicsoul · Post by **Musicsoul** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:23 pm

I recommend using logic, beceause of the better editting posibilities. Live is very good for ''creating'' music. but if you talk recording instruments i definitly say logic. that's the only problem that live has. it's not build for full studio use.

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:44 pm

In terms of the actual recording process, both will be identical IMO. Once you record into Live, just be sure to turn off warping on the newly recorded audio and it'll sound identical to whatever you record in any other DAW (including Logic).

However, as mentioned above, if you need detailed editing, then you might prefer Logic for that. It's not a must though, I record and edit my guitar entirely in Live these days, and aside from lack of crossfades, never really have any issues.

SubFunk · Post by **SubFunk** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:01 pm

Musicsoul wrote:I recommend using logic, beceause of the better editting posibilities. Live is very good for ''creating'' music. but if you talk recording instruments i definitly say logic. that's the only problem that live has. it's not build for full studio use.

i agree, booth will be able to follow your task, but i also prefer logic for pure mic recording / editing / production.

Steve Christian · Post by **Steve Christian** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 4:30 pm

SubFunk wrote:
Musicsoul wrote:I recommend using logic, beceause of the better editting posibilities. Live is very good for ''creating'' music. but if you talk recording instruments i definitly say logic. that's the only problem that live has. it's not build for full studio use.
i agree, booth will be able to follow your task, but i also prefer logic for pure mic recording / editing / production.

I second that. Use Logic, it's better for recording and production.

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hivemind · Post by **hivemind** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:49 pm

hi

i have both Live 6 and Logic Pro 7. stopped using Logic a while ago...

i'm curious why people say Logic is better for recording? i can see it as being better for complex sequencing and arranging, but for (what sounds like a- ) simple recording, what are the advantages? there is no destructive audio editing in Live, but you can get great audio editiors for cheap or even free...

leedsquietman · Post by **leedsquietman** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:09 pm

Live should be fine but there is extra functionality in using a more traditional DAW such as Logic or Cubase as they offer more editing and audio features, some of which are not very necessary at all. Logic also offers better plug-ins for shaping the sound with effects.

Live is really fine for most applications though. For straightforward recording purposes it works fine. If editing is the only gripe, you can use Soundforge or heck, even Audacity (a freeware) is reasonable for the job.

The warping is something to consider - sometimes it helps, if you're recording a dance music track etc to get your sample tighter, but for more expression you would probably wantr to leave it off.

Poster · Post by **Poster** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:21 pm

question is; are you only going to use Logic for recording/basic editing and not for production?
if so; stay with Live and save yourself $1200,-

mission · Post by **mission** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:00 pm

Sorry, but some of this advice is ridiculous.

First, don't use something to record just because there is potential to do something more with it later that you arent even sure you want to do.

Logic is known for its supreme midi integration and definitely not its potential audio versatility. Whether you record in Logic, Live or a wave editor, the result is going to be the same. You're going to have raw wave audio that was convertered through your sound card and pre's. No additional aliasing or destructive processes will occur at this point.

Now stop.

If you want to do something with this audio, then use an audio editor which is made specifically for this and this alone. Wavelab (is my choice) or Soundforge will be do the job and do it very well. Peak, I guess, is the editor of choice on the Mac. But don't go buy a new sequencer (which isnt very intuitive at all for those that dont know Logic) because it's a bit better with audio. In fact, I would say the situation is the opposite. I've used a lot more audio in my tracks since moving from Logic to Live because of the warping, the ease of chopping and all of that. Now processing, mastering and all of that... well, that's a whole 'nother thread. Because that has nothing to do with audio and everything to do about the audio engine and native plugins. Throw VSTs into the mix and it gets much closer to MOOT.

To answer your question: record in live... process in wave editor if you have to. logic is going to add nothing but headache to your equation for what you're going for.

yagetme?

yourmom · Post by **yourmom** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:36 pm

those who say live is not well suited as a studio DAW are just straight fucking nuts. no reason to use logic if you are familiar and comfortable with live. and of COURSE i mean using 3rd party plugs where needed. some of logic's native plugs are cool and all.. i don't really miss em though.

Justin Thyme · Post by **Justin Thyme** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:21 pm

The course of this thread went about as I would have expected it....initial suggestions to the more traditional method, and then the rooting for the "home team".

Of course, depending upon your needs and skills, either one may fit the bill. For starters, I would work with whatever app you have and know before investing in a new app, regardless of which on that is.

If you already have both, it's a bit different. There is no denying that Logic has better audio editing capabilities internal to it than Live. Yes, you could use something like Audacity in conjunction with Live, but that's still messing with two apps instead of one. Anyone who is being objective should be able to confidently state that Logic is the better choice for audio editing. Just as anyone being objective would have to say Live was the better tool for DJ's.

But that doesn't mean it's the best choice for you! My first suggestion...use what you have. Second suggestion, use whichever you know better and are more comfortable with.

LOFA · Post by **LOFA** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:36 am

Justin Thyme wrote:If you already have both, it's a bit different. There is no denying that Logic has better audio editing capabilities internal to it than Live. Yes, you could use something like Audacity in conjunction with Live, but that's still messing with two apps instead of one. Anyone who is being objective should be able to confidently state that Logic is the better choice for audio editing. Just as anyone being objective would have to say Live was the better tool for DJ's.

I recommend reading my sig, and then noting that I would record first in live then tweak in audacity. I choose this method because I think logic's workflow is prohibitive and clunky. I find max/msp infinitely more intuitive.

Logic has sculpture.

veggieryan · Post by **veggieryan** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 6:52 am

after live 6....

....to use logic at all would be...

...illogical

what a clunky, dated and useless program!
it seriously makes me cringe.
even the nice FX don't warrant wadding through it.
save your 1200 for some even nicer FX to use in live6 and a nice wave editor.

mission · Post by **mission** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:35 am

Justin Thyme wrote:Anyone who is being objective should be able to confidently state that Logic is the better choice for audio editing. Just as anyone being objective would have to say Live was the better tool for DJ's.

OK, I admit, I'm a PC user and for years have used Logic 5.5.1 so if there's some new stuff in 7.2 that's dramatically different from an audio processing standpoint then i apologize.

But you're saying this so matter of factly. They both have different strengths and say for example, the time stretching and pitch correction in Logic is absolutely horrible. It never comes out right, ends up overwriting my samples with quirky dialog verbiage and just seems to be an afterthought in that particular version. there for the sake of it. sure some of the transform options are neat like half speeds and quantizes etc but hey...

Ive never once thought of Live 6 as a DJ tool and im sure a bunch of us here havent. For years my peers have been trying to get me to switch to a new daw and i even had an open mind to it. just nothing ever came around that could change the way i worked and do it in a way that didnt slow down anything i wanted to do from a technical standpoint.

the audio editing workflow in live is maybe just perfectly suited for me, i dunno, but ive never incorporated more raw audio in tracks before. in logic id have a crash on an audio track, some bounces and the rest thrown in exs24 for more options.