Machinesworking wrote:hoffman2k wrote:Yeah, the zebra arp is pretty cool. But in Live you can construct different arps with racks, untill you run out of ideas.
Anyway, I agree that we could use a better arp.
But I disagree that the current arp is just a simple toy.
It is made to be part of something bigger. Just like all of the MIDI plugins in Live...
You contradict yourself here, the arp in Live isn't that great, but if you combine it with Live's other elements, then it's got some use. If you'd said it that way, it would have made more sense. It's the same logic that Logic users use every time people mention it's weak points, because the program itself is flexible they can get things done, but in no way does that make the process intuitive or miraculously endowed with an ergonomic workflow.
not trying to dog you hoffman, just noticing that Live is developing 'work arounds' for elements that are easy in other DAWs, like it has been in Logic, and that was a while ago, something Ableton would find distasteful.
Yeah, i could have made more sense. Sorry about that.
I'm living in a world where the only things that are real, are those on my harddrive. I don't care if there are apps that do this and that.
I want Live to do it. The same applies to my other gear.
I want to know everything inside and out. So if have very few plugins and apps. But i know them inside and out.
Anyway. There's a story behind all the "work arounds".
Gerhard Behles once said that Live users shouldn't have to resort to work arounds.
I take those words very seriously. Hence all the "work arounds"
If we can figure it out, thats half the work for the developers done.
Give me more macros and i'll give you an improved arp.
FYI: even though the Covert Seq is driven by MIDI clips, it can be driven by an arp (or arp combo).
The clips that make up the patterns still send the required automation for the step sequencer bit.
In other words, its a step sequenced arp with multiple choices for pattern combinations.
It's already possible with the Seq. But I have no clue how i'm ever going to explain all the tricks of that crazy rack. Let alone the other crazy stuff thats still under the wraps. But don't worry, I'll work around that obstacle
I guess the main point here is: What you see as a work around is something that I see as a perfect chance to bug Ableton about the limitations of the app. Simply providing proof of concept, in order to speed up the process of r&d.
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