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IMO, all of the creative original talent will be dead within the next 20 years...
Iwao Takamoto - RIP
I have to polietly disagree...
To say that all original creative talent will be dead in 20 years is a total misnomer. To say that (or more importantly belive that) discredits any young person's ideas or goals entirely.
From the prospective that all current advanced technology cripples or deters creativeness look to those who haven't the means to afford these technologies. Those young people are the ones who will push whatever they have and get the most out of it. For an example look no further then Jeff Mills or any of our favorite Detroit techno stars. For the most part they took whatever sound creating tools they could get thier hands on and experimented with it until it sounded like what was in thier heads. 20 plus years later people are spending over a $1000 for that Roland TB-303 that they discarded for that digital synth that they were promised was the most revolutionary new product.
Takamoto was a succesful creative force because he made the most of his limited opportunity. There will be others who continue to be creative and use him as an influence.
RIP Mr. Takamoto
To say that all original creative talent will be dead in 20 years is a total misnomer. To say that (or more importantly belive that) discredits any young person's ideas or goals entirely.
From the prospective that all current advanced technology cripples or deters creativeness look to those who haven't the means to afford these technologies. Those young people are the ones who will push whatever they have and get the most out of it. For an example look no further then Jeff Mills or any of our favorite Detroit techno stars. For the most part they took whatever sound creating tools they could get thier hands on and experimented with it until it sounded like what was in thier heads. 20 plus years later people are spending over a $1000 for that Roland TB-303 that they discarded for that digital synth that they were promised was the most revolutionary new product.
Takamoto was a succesful creative force because he made the most of his limited opportunity. There will be others who continue to be creative and use him as an influence.
RIP Mr. Takamoto
My opinion is that all ORIGINAL talent will be gone. There will be no true innovators, no legends, no classics, nothing special. We've been overwhelmed and saturated with volume, blockbusters, computers, instant gratification, construction sets, samples, etc.
There will always be creative talent, but IMO it's now relegated to rehashing, reworking, plagiarizing, remixing, reconceptualizing, etc the work of the pioneers in the various mediums. There's nothing new left any more. It's all been done. All that's left is to redo it.
My opinion only, for what little it's worth...
There will always be creative talent, but IMO it's now relegated to rehashing, reworking, plagiarizing, remixing, reconceptualizing, etc the work of the pioneers in the various mediums. There's nothing new left any more. It's all been done. All that's left is to redo it.
My opinion only, for what little it's worth...
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just today I was thinking about how for a while I thought the abundance of music technology would kill music because we'd get flooded with crap
but today I have spent the day editing a recording which my 69 year old uncle who has been an entertainer all his life has done on this new fangled technology with his mate and I realised how much it's not about the abundance of the technology but the skill in using it which gets the results
I've spent the whole day re-doing an arrangement his mate did for him that I was amazed at the crapness of, and doing things that to me are basic, but they have missed - and this mate has more expensive gear than me
I wouldnt presume to know what my uncle knows about entertaining on stage in the old school sense because he has many, many years experience at it, but when it comes to recording and arranging etc, just because he and his mates have the gear, and are reasonably savvy at pushing the buttons doesnt mean they can use it with any great skill - in "his day" they just would have gone to a studio
point being, while it may seem now that this technology is available to everyone and that as a result the signal to noise will drown out the talent. I dont think it will, because there is still a big difference between using it and using it well
you have to get out out of England kevin, you're sounding like a miserable git, it's taken me 2 years to recover!
but today I have spent the day editing a recording which my 69 year old uncle who has been an entertainer all his life has done on this new fangled technology with his mate and I realised how much it's not about the abundance of the technology but the skill in using it which gets the results
I've spent the whole day re-doing an arrangement his mate did for him that I was amazed at the crapness of, and doing things that to me are basic, but they have missed - and this mate has more expensive gear than me
I wouldnt presume to know what my uncle knows about entertaining on stage in the old school sense because he has many, many years experience at it, but when it comes to recording and arranging etc, just because he and his mates have the gear, and are reasonably savvy at pushing the buttons doesnt mean they can use it with any great skill - in "his day" they just would have gone to a studio
point being, while it may seem now that this technology is available to everyone and that as a result the signal to noise will drown out the talent. I dont think it will, because there is still a big difference between using it and using it well
you have to get out out of England kevin, you're sounding like a miserable git, it's taken me 2 years to recover!
To me, it's not so much about the technology. It's that everything there is to do has already been done.
And while there's scope for change, IMO, innovators are a dying breed. The new 'innovators' are simply rehashing the work of the true innovators, and often in a substandard, diluted (yet often technologically superior) way.
Creativity will always exist, but there won't be anything new.
And I WILL be out of this fucked-up country as soon as possible!
And while there's scope for change, IMO, innovators are a dying breed. The new 'innovators' are simply rehashing the work of the true innovators, and often in a substandard, diluted (yet often technologically superior) way.
Creativity will always exist, but there won't be anything new.
And I WILL be out of this fucked-up country as soon as possible!
My god, and I thought *I* was depressed! :-0hambone1 wrote:My opinion is that all ORIGINAL talent will be gone. There will be no true innovators, no legends, no classics, nothing special. We've been overwhelmed and saturated with volume, blockbusters, computers, instant gratification, construction sets, samples, etc.
sheesh...
*goes away to sell studio for a fiver...*
mbp 2.66, osx 10.6.8, 8GB ram.
I know what you are saying because I often feel the samehambone1 wrote:. .....It's that everything there is to do has already been done......
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but I think every generation must have felt that way
I remember hearing Simon Cowell (okay maybe not the best person to quote but...) saying that just before the Beatles there was a lull in music and people weren't quite sure where to go from rock and roll
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Take heart mate, the darkest hour is just before the dawn.hambone1 wrote:There's nothing new left any more. It's all been done.
(I've posted this before, but hopefully it will raise a knowing chuckle or two...)
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