Apple Phone: They had me at "Scrolling"...

[robtronik]

Sorry, I am not a member of that sect of Jobs . Find that man to be irritating because he is so fake , worse then Billy Gates who at least does not pretend to be kool, whole show was bizarre with those sheeps applauding like some religious sect their leader.

Your disdain for Steve Jobs is noted, but he is quite a remarkable person.

He started Apple with Steve Wozinik, the first personal computer company. He founded Next which flopped but was very innovative. Then he did Pixar, which he sold to Disney and when he returned to Apple he completely turned the company around and launched the most successful hand held music device ever. He has an IQ over 220, which is genius level, and fought off cancer while being the CEO of Apple and Pixar. After all of his achievements yet you think he's a fake. That's laughable.

word to that. People just need to get a reality check on who they are before they start thinking they can lob criticisms elsewhere on people like Jobs.

Hello. The guy is an american original - a true business and marketing (and even managerial) genius who has a knack for being a visionary.

Say what you will, but the guy has done more before he was 25 than 99% of us have done our whole lives (please note that some of you still have time to change that since you are undoubtably under 25 LOL)



rob.

[Novel]

IMO, Jobs' greatest achievement is paving the way for the acceptance of New Balance sneakers in the workplace. I am thankful for his courage and tenacity in breaking down the recreational footwear barrier every single day.

[kabuki]

I thought his best work was on E.R.

[rikhyray]

Sorry, if I hurt anyones feelings about the all americsan hero. His IQ might be 500 or 5000 , his achievements before he was 25 outstanding but the "show" that includes him and the "audience" bizzare, artificial and unbearable in its fakeness. Has nothing to do with his qualities as manager, scientist or whatever, only the impression I had- someone pretending to be something else, it is just my opinion/impression nothing else, north americans might be used to this kind of show, I am not.
It is just a phone- amazing but just a gizmo in the end- yet presented like some religious or political event, for me that was absurd and fake.

[robin]

Sorry, if I hurt anyones feelings about the all americsan hero. His IQ might be 500 or 5000 , his achievements before he was 25 outstanding but the "show" that includes him and the "audience" bizzare, artificial and unbearable in its fakeness. Has nothing to do with his qualities as manager, scientist or whatever, only the impression I had- someone pretending to be something else, it is just my opinion/impression nothing else, north americans might be used to this kind of show, I am not.
It is just a phone- amazing but just a gizmo in the end- yet presented like some religious or political event, for me that was absurd and fake.

You have to view this for what it is. It's a computer industry thing. Geeks are strange people but nowadays people follow what they do (ah the irony) and a consequence of this is that computer industry stuff like this is more widely viewable to people not used to it.

It is mad how some people will whoop and holler at the smallest things. Me, as a fully paid up nerd, it just raises a smile when I see some of those features.

I never get the impression Jobs is fake. However he's a salesman when you see him there, read into that what you will

[pgwalsh]

Sorry, if I hurt anyones feelings about the all americsan hero. His IQ might be 500 or 5000 , his achievements before he was 25 outstanding but the "show" that includes him and the "audience" bizzare, artificial and unbearable in its fakeness. Has nothing to do with his qualities as manager, scientist or whatever, only the impression I had- someone pretending to be something else, it is just my opinion/impression nothing else, north americans might be used to this kind of show, I am not.
It is just a phone- amazing but just a gizmo in the end- yet presented like some religious or political event, for me that was absurd and fake.

The only problem I had was with your personal attack referring to SJ as being fake. He's presented the same way for years.

I agree that MacWorld, put on by MacWolrd Magazine, was very hyped-up, but Apple did little to do with hyping it. They had a two line promotion on their website. The community and the media definitely hyped the possibility of a cool product and it might not have all been justified, but it certainly isn't without merit.

[rikhyray]

probably it is the whole thing that gave me that impression of bizzare and fake, so when I think of it, that sensless applauding got me project it on the man. In India we call such people "chamcha"- literally spoon, like in feeding by spoon, they will be around someone /sopecially if he is famous) trying their best to get attention by praising anything and everything, chamcha will applaud you not only when you play something amazing but even when you tune or cough.
Maybe Jobs was some kind of guru in his past life and all those in the audience were his chamchas from back then.

[kabuki]

probably it is the whole thing that gave me that impression of bizzare and fake, so when I think of it, that sensless applauding got me project it on the man. In India we call such people "chamcha"- literally spoon, like in feeding by spoon, they will be around someone /sopecially if he is famous) trying their best to get attention by praising anything and everything, chamcha will applaud you not only when you play something amazing but even when you tune or cough.
Maybe Jobs was some kind of guru in his past life and all those in the audience were his chamchas from back then.

Or simply, just shareholders "spooning" all the money Jobs is making them...

Imagine if you were there, one of the very few, when Edison unveiled the Lightbulb. Monumental event to be sure. I'm sure there were those standing outside in the cold wind, looking in, saying that it was all poppycock. I mean, back then, candles did a good enough job making light. Right?

[jackmazzotti]

steve jobs on microsoft

i tend to agree

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upzKj-1HaKw

[mbenigni]

Imagine if you were there, one of the very few, when Edison unveiled the Lightbulb. Monumental event to be sure.

I'm not bashing Jobs, myself, I think his continuing successes speak for themselves. But I don't think this "unveiling" compares with an innovation like the lightbulb. It really is apples (ha!) and oranges: the PDA/cell-phone here is evolutionary, and made feasible in large part by a consumer base that has somehow been programmed into believing that it makes sense to carry $600 worth of computing power in your pocket, when a $50 cell phone would suffice (and, by any objective measure, is a luxury item in the first place.)

So I don't condemn Jobs, but I agree that the whole thing is an indication that we have screwed our priorities up beyond all comprehension.

[pgwalsh]

So I don't condemn Jobs, but I agree that the whole thing is an indication that we have screwed our priorities up beyond all comprehension.

I can certainly agree with this statement. I grew-up and live in California. I think we live in a very greedy must have society and it's eroding the values of many people. I blame it on a lot of factors, but marketing is a big one. Seems like every product launch has to have huge "buzz words" regardless if it's warranted or not. I can't tell you how many times I've seen a bunch of hoopla over something and then have been let down in reality. It's made me become very patient and wait to see reviews and let other be the early adopters. I've had one cell phone and refuse to buy any other gadgets until I see something completely user friendly and suites my needs. Is it necessary, no. Will it be useful, most likely, but as always, I'll take the wait and see approach.

[kabuki]

Imagine if you were there, one of the very few, when Edison unveiled the Lightbulb. Monumental event to be sure.

I'm not bashing Jobs, myself, I think his continuing successes speak for themselves. But I don't think this "unveiling" compares with an innovation like the lightbulb. It really is apples (ha!) and oranges: the PDA/cell-phone here is evolutionary, and made feasible in large part by a consumer base that has somehow been programmed into believing that it makes sense to carry $600 worth of computing power in your pocket, when a $50 cell phone would suffice (and, by any objective measure, is a luxury item in the first place.)

So I don't condemn Jobs, but I agree that the whole thing is an indication that we have screwed our priorities up beyond all comprehension.

The reference to the lightbulb was to point out that back then, folks probably went ape-shit, while others said "so what?"

To extrapolate your priorities argument, (which I agree with), we don't really "need" PDAs, iPods, cell phones, Ableton Live, laptops, cars, electricity, processed foods, sanitization to survive. Do we? I think, though, it is all relative. We are spoiled, as a society. While we have more extravigant lifestyles and the items that make them so, we are also more consumed with work and influence. We work hard to have nice things to make our free time more free... its a vicious cycle comsumerism. Alas, we are here now. Let's live here now.

[fatrabbit]

Wasn't there recently some stink thrown up about Jobs and how he was extracting money from Apple illegally?

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/artic ... 22221.html

Don't know if it's true.

Sure, Jobs is a bit of a bastard (you have to be ruthless to be in business!) but is just far far far less of a bastard than Bill Gates.



Don't take it seriously

[rikhyray]

It is also how far do we allow our heads to be scrwed by advertising. perfect example are the coffee machine they try to convince Germans they life is less without.. Instead of putting the coffee powder inm you buy ready made pads- which of course cost 4x more then the powder and you are limited in choice. Not only you waste money but also add unnecessary grbage and taste of the paper to your coffee. Now the newest mantra- I love it because is so idiotic- "lästige mich aufschaumen" free translaton "annoiyng milk stirring" . the wumdermachine does it for you! Now everytime I prepare my macchiato I hear that phrase and laugh, the point is that it takes just few seconds and you will never get that good taste as with real old school Italian machine and milk stirred manually then with that "VST coffe machine emulator" Still some must be buying that useless shit.
It is our choice to believe or not " make beats like Neptunes or Doctor Dre", "thinking like Einstein without effort", paint like Micheangelo" with software X, no prior experience needed.....
I will buy the bloody iPhone,since it is exactly what I always wanted mobile phone to do and more, but I wont feel I am part of inventing lightbulb or landing on the moon.

[buzzcock]

He has an IQ over 220, which is genius level

er, maybe you mean 130?

220 wuould surely be remarkable...