Abletons Sound Quality

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Abletons Sound Quality

Post by woodwardjnr » Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:48 pm

New to this site, so I guess this has been done to death. When I render my tracks to disk the audio qualityis poor. Is there anyway of improving this?

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Re: Abletons Sound Quality

Post by Meef Chaloin » Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:00 pm

woodwardjnr wrote:New to this site, so I guess this has been done to death.
yep :)

Check your warping, use the right mode. Rendering will not affect the quality of the sound so it must be something you are doing before that point. Make sure the master isnt clipping.

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Post by leisuremuffin » Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:09 pm

expose your genitals to a hungry badger.

drastic increase in sound quality.


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Post by compositeone » Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:49 pm

leisuremuffin wrote:expose your genitals to a hungry badger.

drastic increase in sound quality.


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Post by Andrew Russell NYC » Wed Jan 17, 2007 1:56 pm

leisuremuffin wrote:expose your genitals to a hungry badger.

drastic increase in sound quality.


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Post by nebulae » Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:10 pm

Sometimes, when it's really freezing outside and my sound quality is horrible, I slightly wet my genitals and then go outside and stick them to flagpoles. After ripping them off (and leaving some skin behind) I find that the sound quality is much much better.

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Post by XPM » Wed Jan 17, 2007 2:29 pm

make sure you mix down with the master fader at 0db and adjust the track faders for the mix rather than the master.
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Post by Tarekith » Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:02 pm

Use plug ins other than the ones that come with Live. If you record a part into Live at it's current tempo, you don't need warping, so turn it off for that part.

Don't always blame Live either, it takes a long time to get a good mixdown no matter what gear you use (no offense).

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Post by Michael-SW » Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:06 pm

XPM wrote:make sure you mix down with the master fader at 0db and adjust the track faders for the mix rather than the master.
Huh? That should be totally irrelevant. The final output is the product of the individual track faders and the master fader. Everything is done in 32 bit floating point. Shouldn't matter at all where you put the gain unless you do something really extreme.

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Post by Steve Christian » Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:10 pm

Tarekith wrote:Use plug ins other than the ones that come with Live. If you record a part into Live at it's current tempo, you don't need warping, so turn it off for that part.

Don't always blame Live either, it takes a long time to get a good mixdown no matter what gear you use (no offense).
Agreed. Improved sound quality comes with experience and just continued work with audio. When you get to the point to where you can understand the sonic difference between using waves bundled compressors, limiters, etc... vs. Ableton's, then you can blame your said DAW (ableton in your case) for poor sound quality. There's a really good book I recommend to my friend's everytime they ask why my stuff sound so clean. It's called "Dance Music Manual - Tools, Tips, Toys and Techniques". I can't recommend that book enough to people wanting to learn how to produce better sounding tracks and know very little about compressors, exciters, limiters, etc... I call it my music bible :lol:

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Post by Bisco » Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:12 pm

Don't render to disk in ableton!! Search the threads as there are a few topics on this. When you render, the file that is created is not giong to sound identical to what you are hearing in your monitors. I would reccomend using rewire and something like protools. FOr me, at least, the difference was tremendous.

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Post by Meef Chaloin » Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:25 pm

would you mind explaining that theory?

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Post by paolo topaz » Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:34 pm

yeah I'd love to know how you manage that too, do you render all the track separtely and then load them into Protools on ths ame amount of channels? how do the effects come into play?
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Post by Bisco » Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:44 pm

to keep it pretty basic rather than render to disc in ableton, I will open protools then run ableton in a stereo track (look under instrument in the rtas exfx). Depending on what I am doing ableton sometimes I will rewire individual channels to individual channels in Protools. The only down side is if you use 3rd party plugins in ableton, they will be inctive while in rewire mdre, so you have to use them in protools instead. Its a little extra work unfortunately. then bounce to disk in protools. I do not render any tracks before hand though as it defeats the purpose of using protools.

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