What exactly is "Deep Freeze"

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dkcalifornia
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What exactly is "Deep Freeze"

Post by dkcalifornia » Sun Jan 28, 2007 4:43 am

I see mention of the "deep freeze" option in Live 6 all the time.

I've done 8 songs now with Live 6 and, of course, I've frozen tracks and flattened them. Never seen anything called "Deep Freeze" in any menus, etc.

is "Deep Freeze" just a term for the more flexible "Freeze" menu item capabilities? Or is there a hidden "Deep Freeze" function in the menu or settings somewhere?

I might already be using Deep Freeze and not even know it!

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Post by benj_sp » Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:04 am

> I might already be using Deep Freeze and not even know it!

Yes, you are!

In session mode, you can freeze a track, which freezes individual clips. You can go and and trigger them at will, record them into an arrangement, continue to chop up and move around those clips in arrangement view. That's Deep Freeze.

In other daw's, once you've frozen something you can't do much - it would be akin to freezing a whole track in arrange view and not being able to edit it all, other than volume/pans etc.

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Post by Pitch Black » Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:38 am

It's pretty much to diferentiate that Live 5 first offered "Freeze", which some users found a bit underwhelming, and Live 6's expanded "Deep Freeze" which rocks the asses off of things that are normally quite attached to their ass.
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Post by R.J.Dubya » Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:57 am

Pitch Black wrote:...... which rocks the asses off of things that are normally quite attached to their ass.
Fuck that made me laugh! May I have your permission to use that one?......

I'm still laughing.
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Post by BASSbüro » Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:11 am

so, the biggest gap is yet, that you can't freeze complex routings. and without complex routings, i can't manage my songs...........

for me, this freeze-function is obsolete. :?
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Post by Pitch Black » Sun Jan 28, 2007 8:52 am

Hi BASSburo, All complex routing has to end somwhere. Either in Return track(s) or a standard Track. You can always route your returns back to a dedicated Audio Track for recording. What I do in that case is just drop into record in either Session or Arrange on that track to "freeze" it's input - no matter how complex. When I want to "unfreeze" I just put the Track into input again.

Does this work for ya?
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Post by BASSbüro » Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:34 am

Hi BASSburo, All complex routing has to end somwhere. Either in Return track(s) or a standard Track. You can always route your returns back to a dedicated Audio Track for recording. What I do in that case is just drop into record in either Session or Arrange on that track to "freeze" it's input - no matter how complex. When I want to "unfreeze" I just put the Track into input again.

Does this work for ya?
yes, that's a good proposal. works like a charm. thanx! 8)
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