HELP! Sampler release envelope is being sketchy

[domminicus51]

When i send midi to sampler via a midi keyboard, the volume release envelope only works when multiple notes are held down. i.e. if i hit only one note on the keyboard, when i release it, audio stops immediately, no matter what the release time is set at. However, if I play multiple notes, the release envelopes for each of them work fine until I release the last note, at which point all audio stops immediately. This only happens when i'm tracking/auditioning with my midi keyboard; sampler plays back midi clips without this issue.

The keyboard I'm using is a roland juno 2, but I don't think that's where the problem's coming from as I've used it to trigger numerous softsynths before, including operator, and have never had this problem until now.

[Synthbuilder]

The keyboard I'm using is a roland juno 2, but I don't think that's where the problem's coming from as I've used it to trigger numerous softsynths before, including operator, and have never had this problem until now.

Sorry, but that is the problem. Early Rolands send CC123 'all notes off' when you take your last finger off the keyboard. This is Roland's incorrect translation of the 'all notes off' command in the original midi spec. CC123 was actually meant as a panic button command to silence stuck notes. Later Rolands corrected this misunderstanding.

But for those of us with older Roland keyboards, you'll need to run your keyboard through a suitable midi filter to get rid of this message.

Live, unlike FL, does not filter CC123 automatically. Cubase used to have this filtered as an option. I don't know whether C4 still does though.

I use midiox to get rid of the unwanted midi message and then pass the filtered midi stream into Live via Midi Yoke. Not that easy to set up.

[Peter Cherry]

I have the same issue. I also have Roland Alpha Juno 2 keyboard. The best solution so far for me is to use Bome´s Midi Translator (http://www.bome.com/midi/translator) where you set translation of cc123 into nothing. It means that on output there will be no cc123 information...

But still I would like to find any Ableton based solution (internal midi filter as in Cubase 3).

Isn´t it possible ? Any Ableton plugin ?