Grouping Track Faders?

Mateoo · Post by **Mateoo** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:41 am

Sorry if this has already been answered been searching for quite a while now.

Is it possible to group track faders in live and bring the Volumes down together insted of individually? Cause once i get a mix going and i want to have a bit of headroom i dont want to start playing around again and stuff all my volumes up.

Cheers

Pitch Black · Post by **Pitch Black** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:25 am

There isn't an actual way to gang faders together, except routing them thru a track or return track.

If you want to give yourself more headroom without messing up your volume settings, you could insert a Utility plugin with a -6db gain setting over each track. Drops the levels without messing up any automation etc.

anti-banausic · Post by **anti-banausic** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:29 pm

Well, there is one way. If you have live6 you can midi map all the faders you want to move together to the same midi knob or fader. This way, when you move that fader, all of them will move together. However, it doesn't work perfectly, and it isn't relative, but you could try it out and see.

You can also route all the tracks to one audio track. That'll work, sort of.

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:17 pm

anti-banausic wrote:Well, there is one way. If you have live6 you can midi map all the faders you want to move together to the same midi knob or fader. This way, when you move that fader, all of them will move together. However, it doesn't work perfectly, and it isn't relative, but you could try it out and see.

You can also route all the tracks to one audio track. That'll work, sort of.

expanding on this

if you had a midi track sending its stuff to a virtual midi port with midi yoke or something, you could then route that back into live across multiple faders could you not?

ikke · Post by **ikke** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:18 pm

to make along story shorrt... YOU CANT GROUP TRACKS AND MOST OF US WANT IT! the ones that are telling you you dont need it, those are ableton djs (the majority).

jdrada · Post by **jdrada** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:59 pm

I just went through something similar, the mix perfect just a little loud. I just grabbed a paper wrote down all my levels and did some math. I re-adjusted my faders and got my mix where I needed it.

The easy way would be to have the ability to group faders...

Live 7???

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 5:06 pm

jdrada wrote:I just went through something similar, the mix perfect just a little loud. I just grabbed a paper wrote down all my levels and did some math. I re-adjusted my faders and got my mix where I needed it.

The easy way would be to have the ability to group faders...

Live 7???

i think this begs the question, are the faders visually linear or exponential?

the reason is that i remember once i tried what you describe by clicking on the faders of clips individually and pressing 'page down'.. didnt feel condifent that this would be a proper gain stage, i use the next best workaround and put a utility on a track, adjusted it and then cloned it across all tracks.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:18 pm

Wait a sec...you can route any number of tracks into sub-busses, and then easily adjust the overall level of those "grouped" tracks. What am I missing here?

e.maynard · Post by **e.maynard** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:23 pm

nebulae wrote:Wait a sec...you can route any number of tracks into sub-busses, and then easily adjust the overall level of those "grouped" tracks. What am I missing here?

You are missing absolutely nothing. That method works perfectly fine.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:55 pm

In that case, don't hold your breath for any updates on this. The Abes are known for less-is-more approach. If you can do it with the current system, unless there's dramatic gains in usability, there won't be an added feature anytime soon. Case in point: a cut tool and a line tool. Would be nice, but ain't gonna happen.

megahurt · Post by **megahurt** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:15 pm

Wow, this sucks. Grouping faders is a pretty basic function, I thought for sure it would be in there.

I guess I have been taking a lot of things for granted using Pro Tools for so long.

djsynchro · Post by **djsynchro** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:15 am

nebulae wrote:Case in point: a cut tool and a line tool. Would be nice, but ain't gonna happen.

To do what with?

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:21 am

djsynchro wrote:
nebulae wrote:Case in point: a cut tool and a line tool. Would be nice, but ain't gonna happen.
To do what with?

draw straight ramps, so I can sound like Rave'95 all the time with my rolling 909 snare drums.

anti-banausic · Post by **anti-banausic** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:35 am

Neb, you can. If you switch to edit (not draw), hold ctrl in the velocity area of the midi clip, and drag the mouse, you will see a line and the velocities will follow it.

Best,
AB

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:43 am

Yeah, someone told me about that yesterday