Drum Machines?

BassTooth · Post by **BassTooth** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:35 pm

Just wondering what people here use for percussion.

I've tried everything; REX loops, Impulse of course, i own and love microTonic and i have Battery3 for really detailed sampling. But my favorite by far is Groove Agent.
Does anyone here use Steinberg's Groove Agent? Are you excited about the release of Groove Agent 3 like I am? (Steinberg has delayed the release signifigantly)

Apparently with the new version you can finally import samples and loops and stuff.
But I've always loved this damned product, press a fricking button and you've got a song of nothing but drums!!! The humnaize feature is kick ass, some of the "elctronic" drums are a little on the cheesy side, the acoustic kits are decent, (especially the Heavy Metal Kit) but with all the patterns and fills it come with right out of the box, you can't go wrong.

I am currently converting all the MIDI patterns it comes with so i can use them with Battery3, cuz the kits in Battey3 are way better.

cosmosuave · Post by **cosmosuave** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:45 pm

triggering this

bigbadotis · Post by **bigbadotis** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:54 pm

cosmosuave,

are you serious? I had a 707 that I picked up for like $20... the sequencer seemed so unintuitive to me that I almost felt like the $20 was wasted. Should I dig it up and play with it? Is it really somewhat decent once you wrap your head around it?

hmmm....

kuniklo · Post by **kuniklo** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:58 pm

Software:
* Microtonic
* Sampler kits

Hardware:
* Machinedrum UW
* MPC 1000

I get much better results with the hardware, for whatever reason.

BassTooth · Post by **BassTooth** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 6:59 pm

thats looks like tons o fun.

BassTooth · Post by **BassTooth** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:01 pm

kuniklo wrote: I get much better results with the hardware, for whatever reason.

yea hands on, definitely

mbenigni · Post by **mbenigni** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:12 pm

Mostly I use and modify Impulse clips.

Lately I'm using more BFD, but I can't get any of the BFD MIDI content to function quite right. If I drag BFD MIDI files as if they were Live clips, they don't track properly on all drums, and I don't really know how to use the BFD sequencer from within Live. So I've been playing my own drum parts and saving these off as new clips. Time consuming, but best results to date.

motormouth · Post by **motormouth** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:22 pm

STOMPER!!!!!!!!

it's free, ancient, and has become virtually unknown, yet is my favorite tool for creating drum hits, especially bass kicks. You can manipulate samples, or synthesize the drum sound, or both. just try it and see.

http://www.lysator.liu.se/~zap/stomper/index2.html

NorthernMonkey · Post by **NorthernMonkey** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:25 pm

This...

http://www.fxpansion.com/index.php?page=21

BassTooth · Post by **BassTooth** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:25 pm

mbenigni wrote:Mostly I use and modify Impulse clips.

Lately I'm using more BFD, but I can't get any of the BFD MIDI content to function quite right. If I drag BFD MIDI files as if they were Live clips, they don't track properly on all drums, and I don't really know how to use the BFD sequencer from within Live. So I've been playing my own drum parts and saving these off as new clips. Time consuming, but best results to date.

i know, i'm having the same problem with groove agent. they make the products so that the data is proprietary, but all that does is make things more inconvienent i guess.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 7:26 pm

Working out playing Impulse with my mpc1000 along with the mpc sounds. Layering drums is key, as well as having a playable interface.

YES GET OUT YOUR 707, OR SELL IT TO ME.

cosmosuave · Post by **cosmosuave** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:45 pm

bigbadotis wrote:cosmosuave,

are you serious? I had a 707 that I picked up for like $20... the sequencer seemed so unintuitive to me that I almost felt like the $20 was wasted. Should I dig it up and play with it? Is it really somewhat decent once you wrap your head around it?

hmmm....

Pretty much the same sequencer as on the TR909... Quite easy to program... Dig it up..

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:49 pm

I use Machinedrum-UW, my own sample collection, and just recently Battery 3.

mbenigni · Post by **mbenigni** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 8:57 pm

i know, i'm having the same problem with groove agent. they make the products so that the data is proprietary, but all that does is make things more inconvienent i guess.

The weird thing is that I cannot even conceive of a way for them to have gone and broken this. I mean, the MIDI files are there in a folder plain as day. I can navigate to them, and drag them into a Live BFD track, and most of the pattern will play, indicating that I am in fact dragging MIDI around. But the pattern is never quite the same as what happens when I launch the same clip in BFD itself.

How the heck do you break MIDI??

Johnisfaster · Post by **Johnisfaster** » Tue Feb 20, 2007 9:23 pm

cosmosuave wrote:
triggering this

I thought the 707 only output midi in song mode? which would would be kinda a pain since you can't change patterns on the fly. am I wrong?