Live 4 Question and Answer Thread---We ask...Ableton Answers

forge · Post by **forge** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:00 pm

Martyn wrote:Oh man, we should be letting these good people work! I neeeeeeeeeeeeed it, I neeeeeed it, I N................. ... .. . .

oh yes

my rather excessive presence on this forum today is testament to just how badly I've been suffering that affliction, but In having to deal with it while I'm getting on with a tune, enjoying my last moments with Live 3 I started getting into a different train of thought about just how unique Live 3 is as is - and I totally understand why alot of people were saying they didn't want midi/vst.

in some ways it may always be more unique than Live 4 because you DON'T have the option of midi - so you end up doing things in a much more adaptive and distinctive way - I've heard tracks many times that I've been able to say were definitely done with the help of live, but perhaps with 4 the only fault of it is the very fact that we can use things like absynth etc more readily and thus the lines may get a little blurred and live becomes more the sequencer than the sound itself.

Don't get me wrong, I think Live 4 wil be absolutely, spot on my ultimate
music making tool , But Live 3 by it's very nature had a very unique way of doing things, which shined through - if you used absynth, you would use it as an audio file and manipulate it differently, while now we'll be more tempted to do real time modulation of Absynth by it's own parameters, rather than Live's

I doubt I'll stop using it that way, but thinking about it, in a way it's a
shame we weren't on 3 longer as Live 3 hs definitely made it's mark on this particular moment in music technology history with the whole clip
automation/real time timestretching thing - it's created an amazingly unique sound.

But regardless I'm so insanely excited about getting my hands on 4 - I guess that's when I find out that what I was just saying was complete bollocks, and instead Live 4 is about to take that uniqueness and completely nail it and change the face of this moment in music technology history!!!!!

Mbazzy · Post by **Mbazzy** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:00 pm

Chord : play one midi note results in the corresponding chord ...
Pitch : the midi assignable pitch everyone was longing for in audio, but in midi ... eg. to dynamically change boring patterns

Per Boysen · Post by **Per Boysen** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:02 pm

loophead wrote: I think you'll see a dedicated arp module in there (numerology) soon.

Already got that in Num

The Matrix Module. But it has a bug right now that is to be fixed.

loophead · Post by **loophead** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:05 pm

Pitty arpeggitor would have been the last piece of my puzzle

Now I sit here waiting and watching with liitle hope that my "I want it NOW" mentality will abait as I patiently ????? wait for beta.....

Per...I'm talking about a full boar arp module !

Lets you do stuff that you cant do in the 'matrix' !

Per Boysen · Post by **Per Boysen** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:10 pm

Mbazzy wrote:Pitch : the midi assignable pitch everyone was longing for in audio, but in midi ... eg. to dynamically change boring patterns

Dreaming on here, reading the Autotune 4 manual and what do I find but a midi-to-audio-pitch converter!!!! With this thing opened in Live you can play live iinput audio from a midi controller (thinking about my midi guitar here). What about putting just a huge delay and then the Autotune 4 as effects on a live input track? This will make you play the eccoes of what you just played three seconds ago!!!! Wicked!

Will it hurt the brain! Probably initially....

Mbazzy · Post by **Mbazzy** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:10 pm

Btw, have you noticed how you can monitor the signal levels in between the efx , with a nice touch to make distinction between midi level meter [ led style] and audio [ "full line" ] .. . same consistency in session view ...

loophead · Post by **loophead** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:12 pm

Yea that I caught just missed the midi list....

Sleepwalker · Post by **Sleepwalker** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:53 pm

1. what exactly are the % cpu performance boost on the Mac?

5dots · Post by **5dots** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 9:54 pm

what i'd like to know is, will i be allowed more than two midi devices? i use a cheap evolution midi keyboard, an akai mpd16, and an evolution x-session. i don't usually use them all in the same song (hard to do with the keyboard and the mpd), but i do use them all in a live performance setting.

if i can't use more than two, can someone at least explain to me why i'm limited to two?

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Per Boysen · Post by **Per Boysen** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:03 pm

Sleepwalker wrote:1. what exactly are the % cpu performance boost on the Mac?

The code of Live 4 has been optimized for the G4 and G5 processor according to "Altivec". On PC you have SEE2 with the Pentium 4 processor but appearently only Altivec optimization comes with this update.

Such software code optimization means that the software doesn't have to run every single line because it can now address big "chunks of code" that has been built into the processor routines as shortcuts. Kind of...

Robert Henke · Post by **Robert Henke** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:10 pm

Your Hardware is the limit.
For MIDI Sequencing you can have as much Devices / MIDI Ports
as you whish.

robert

5dots wrote:what i'd like to know is, will i be allowed more than two midi devices? i use a cheap evolution midi keyboard, an akai mpd16, and an evolution x-session. i don't usually use them all in the same song (hard to do with the keyboard and the mpd), but i do use them all in a live performance setting.

if i can't use more than two, can someone at least explain to me why i'm limited to two?

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AIRDRAWN · Post by **AIRDRAWN** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:18 pm

Dual screen capability?

Resizable tracks in session view?

brasco1234 · Post by **brasco1234** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:23 pm

Very excited for the new upgrade. But will it include looping without warping. Please say yes.
Thanks,
Chris

kabuki · Post by **kabuki** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:45 pm

Per Boysen wrote:
Sleepwalker wrote:1. what exactly are the % cpu performance boost on the Mac?
The code of Live 4 has been optimized for the G4 and G5 processor according to "Altivec". On PC you have SEE2 with the Pentium 4 processor but appearently only Altivec optimization comes with this update.

Such software code optimization means that the software doesn't have to run every single line because it can now address big "chunks of code" that has been built into the processor routines as shortcuts. Kind of...

Did you read the word "Altivec" somewhere? because All I could find was a vague "Audio performance has been optimized for Macintosh computers." This does NOT necessarily mean Altivec. They might have just tweakd a few lines of code and called it "optimized"

Either way, I'm stoked. Just more stoked with ALTIVEC.

Per Boysen · Post by **Per Boysen** » Fri Jun 04, 2004 10:57 pm

kabuki wrote:computers." This does NOT necessarily mean Altivec. They might have just tweakd a few lines of code and called it "optimized"
.

Yes, maybe. But I hope not. Would come off pretty lame doing that.

Live 4 Question and Answer Thread---We ask...Ableton Answers

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