How to change MIDI drum assignments?

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eganglion
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How to change MIDI drum assignments?

Post by eganglion » Wed Feb 21, 2007 6:42 am

Hello,

I'm having some issuesgetting drums playing well n Live6 with MIDI files that others have given me, and I think I am missing something really simple. Can someone help?

If I place, for example, the kick drum part in a MIDI track, then drop in one of the drum kits (to give the MIDI some sound), I find that the MIDI notes fall outside the playable range of the kit. I either need to slide all of the MIDI notes up so that they align with the snare, or kick drum, or whatever (which I haven't figured out how to do) or else I need to rearrange where on the "note ruler" where each drum sound is located (which I also cannot figure out how to do). This image shows the problem: all the notes fall on C1, but not on any of the drum sounds. How can I fix this?

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Post by OriginalSpaceMan » Wed Feb 21, 2007 7:20 am

It kinda stinks that each drum-line is it's own midi file. I would try to combine these into one clip. If you do this, you can then adjust where they hit on the scale, or if all of the drum notes hit between C1 and C2 major scale, then you can just place a pitch-change before the Impulse and automatically bump it up 24 steps (2 octaves). This will place all of you notes in the impulse range (C3 through C4). If each drum-line is all importing on C1 then you're gonna just have to do it the hard way. Import the first drum-line into your midi channel. Make a second clip and copy the midi from the imported clip into the new clip. Now, move them to C3 through C4 major scale, depending on which drum they are associated with. Now, import the next drum-line, copy, paste again into the same newly-made clip. Move accordingly... and so on.
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Post by nolus » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:01 am

Click on the little white square at the front of the row, this will select every note on that row. Now click and hold on any note in the pattern and drag it up to where you want it, the rest of the notes will go with it.

Alternatively use a midi pitch effect to transpose the pattern.
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Post by Tone Deft » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:20 am

with MIDI YOKE (PC) or the IAC (Mac) you can route separate midi tracks out to a midi yoke port, then back into a single track in Live, with this you can combine midi tracks into one track. As you're biulding the Impulse kit, put the Impulse into the new that's receiving from midi yoke, all the drums hit one kit.
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Post by nolus » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:23 am

Tone Deft wrote:with MIDI YOKE (PC) or the IAC (Mac) you can route separate midi tracks out to a midi yoke port, then back into a single track in Live, with this you can combine midi tracks into one track. As you're biulding the Impulse kit, put the Impulse into the new that's receiving from midi yoke, all the drums hit one kit.
Just use the "MIDI To" routing box on each MIDI track to route the MIDI data to the Impulse Track. No need for MIDI YOKE or IAC.
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Post by Tone Deft » Wed Feb 21, 2007 8:25 am

nolus wrote:Just use the "MIDI To" routing box on each MIDI track to route the MIDI data to the Impulse Track. No need for MIDI YOKE or IAC.
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Re: ...changing midi mapping

Post by eganglion » Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:44 pm

nolus wrote:Click on the little white square at the front of the row, this will select every note on that row. Now click and hold on any note in the pattern and drag it up to where you want it, the rest of the notes will go with it.

Alternatively use a midi pitch effect to transpose the pattern.
Thanks Nolus, the first method you mentioned works pretty well, as long as I click a note in the pattern while holding down the CTRL key (Windoze) I can move the whole line up to one of the assigned drum devices. I have to be careful not to shift the whole mess left or right though, because that screws up the timing.

I noticed that doing the change in this way actually copies the pattern, and moves the copy, leaving the original pattern where it was. I suppose this is handy, in case I mess up or change my mind, the original notes are still there.

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