Live 4 Announced.

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Post by Guest » Sat Jun 05, 2004 9:05 pm

I think you guys are jumping to conclusions. I don't see the word altivec anywhere on abletons web site (except in the forum) - do you? You're just assuming that mac audio optimizing means altivec ... I hope so ... but I doubt it.

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Post by ikeaboy » Sat Jun 05, 2004 9:51 pm

"In addition, Live hosts any VSTi or Audio Units (Mac OS X only) plug-in instrument."

Right, now I'm new to VSTis does this mean that Windows users can only use the two bundeled midi devices and external midi gear? :?:

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Post by dirtystudios » Sat Jun 05, 2004 9:59 pm

no, it means that audio units are mac only. it'll host vsti's on windows.

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Post by ikeaboy » Sat Jun 05, 2004 10:13 pm

Ah ha!
Well thanks for that one

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Post by gaspode » Sat Jun 05, 2004 11:55 pm

now if they could just get live in my pants it'd be perfected :)

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Post by koranek » Sun Jun 06, 2004 2:00 am

I can't be sure exactly about Altivec optimization but I think this gives us a big clue

"Audio performance has been optimized for Macintosh computers."

This is from Ableton's press release for Live 4 on this web site.
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MP3 support?

Post by Guest3456 » Sun Jun 06, 2004 4:58 pm

Does anyone else think Live should support mp3 format for clips?
I use Live for recording and am psyched about the new features, but I'd definitely use it for DJing as well if it did this.

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Post by Guest » Sun Jun 06, 2004 5:18 pm

i personally dont think so.

i try to stay away from mp3s, as i liek to have every bit of sonic depth as possible.

if u have to u can just convert your mp3s to .wav with an editor like wavelab, which could do a lot of them in batches.

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Post by forge » Sun Jun 06, 2004 7:30 pm

besides, 160GB external HD is pretty damn cheap now, you could store many many sets on one of those - and you'd definitely have less problems

even Cubase has to convert mp3s to wavs before working on them, so I don't think using them in the way live does would be possible without performance sacrifices at the machine has to decompress as well as everything else

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Well done Abelton !

Post by rob kelly » Sun Jun 06, 2004 10:36 pm

I wanted to chime in with everyone else and say that this update is exactly what i'd hoped for, and that it really is one of the most significant events in how people make music for a long time. Nice one Ableton, it's looks fantastic. Can't wait to try integrating MIDI from live with VJ software with live musicians. Arkaos VJ software now works over rewire so that should be pretty awesome. Can't wait for G5 laptop !

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Post by Ed A. » Mon Jun 07, 2004 1:15 am

Anonymous wrote:I think you guys are jumping to conclusions. I don't see the word altivec anywhere on abletons web site (except in the forum) - do you? You're just assuming that mac audio optimizing means altivec ... I hope so ... but I doubt it.
You are correct. Usually, optimization for Macintosh means AltiVec enhanced. In this case, according to Ableton developer Bernd Roggendorf, optimization means an increase in performance of between 10%-30% by more efficient coding. This is even with all the new additional features of Live 4. Another benefit is that G3 Macs will also have performance increases because of this. See this thread:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8283

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Post by qchapter » Mon Jun 07, 2004 3:20 am

Thanks Ableton! For supporting os9. OSX on my G3 iBook gives me gas! This looks like the holy grail!

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Post by Guest » Mon Jun 07, 2004 3:42 am

was out of town for a wedding when the 4 bomb was dropped--hell yeah. instead of piling through this whole thread--

DOES ANYONE know if 4 will have a midi mappable delete button and resizable session tracks???

If so, my entire Live wishlist will be complete when 4 comes out, and I can kick FL, bomes, midi ox/yoke to the curb, and pretty much just run Live--4 looks absolutely awesome ableton, you have outdone yourself again. And for the vsti midi naysayers--eat a fattt one. you know you are drooling as much as me--shame on you for doubting Ableton. As I've said all along--they have never done anything half-assed, and 4 looks absolutely stunning!!!!!

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Post by warabunga » Mon Jun 07, 2004 9:38 am

thanks!!!!
just wanted to get into reason yesterday... cause I need them portable sounds. when I saw what you are doing to live I just said to myself: "fuck it" with a bright smile in my face

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well, hopefully my powerbook will share the joy!
waiting desperately for the public beta

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Post by nosuch » Mon Jun 07, 2004 9:56 am

hopefully it has full rewire 2.0 support so I can sequence in live and use my reason rig for making it audible...

I just wished i could use the reason instruments like vstis in live....
...just trying to figure out how to make my computer sing....

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