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Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
BobTheDog
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Post by BobTheDog » Mon Oct 02, 2006 12:58 pm

rikhyray wrote:
punkdISCO wrote:Hi - sorry to come in so late on this one. Yeah, I have the Psicraft editor. It really is an incredibly well designed editor and could be a joy to use. Unfortunately there were just a few omissions for me so I decided to drop it for a while. I can't actually remember what all my issues were but from memory the main killers were:

1. In VST mode (my main reason for buying it) the sequencer clock does not sync with Ableton. Obviously the Evolver sequencer is almost as important as say, a tb303's sequencer. It certainly accounts for a considerable amount of the Evolver's appeal.
2. Sound Recall does not work. I wanted to have the plugin in a track and not have to worry about saving patches, just like other VSTs.

Anyway, 6 months since I dropped it I keep meaning to go back and see how things are progressing. If the two above have been resolved then I would say: if you have a Evo desktop then you MUST get this editor. Otherwise, its usefulness will vary depending on how your work..

If I get answers to the above, ill post back here..
Thanks so at least I know Iwas lucky it didnt work with the Vysor. Gods are taking good care of me, meanwhile I am getting impression that the psychocraft are some kind psycho religious sect, spamming and chasing me all over internet, my only crime - not buying their software. What is next sending some goons to beat me ?
Dave Smith editor does the job for me rather well, the other one seem to me like Novation SL- great idea but unfinished and buggy - such products are of not much use to me, though might be OK for some.
One or the other, it is worth having editor if you want to use Evolver more intensly, specially the desktop ( to compensate for numerical display)
Pychocraft + your fanboys please kindly leave me alone- I am no more interested in your products.
You seem more interested in slagging things off, which is probably why your post count is so high.

thelike5
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Post by thelike5 » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:27 pm

destruktobot wrote:
thelike5 wrote:Uh, ok then...

Nowhere on the vysen or whatever it's called, site mentions anything like "endorsed by Dave Smith" or anything like that. On top of that, they are planning on doing editors like this for a bunch of the Roland stuff that came out over the course of the last few years. I hardly imagine Roland giving the ok on this...

I'm assuming you work for this company or maybe it is your company. I'd suggest a more cognitive approach and making this generally clearer to understand on the actual website, not in a forum...
Editors and librarians have been around for MIDI instruments since the 80s. AFAIK, creating a front-end editor based on published specs {usually found near the end of a MIDI device's manual} requires no special agreement with the manufacturer; indeed, development of those tools was encouraged.

It's "Vyzor". Five easy letters. Of course, if one can't get that little detail right, why should we expect informed assertions from you, or even basic reading comprehension?
Gee thanks Dad for pointing out that editors and libriarians have been out since the 80's. Now I can start programming my Yamaha DX-7 that's been sitting in the closet! What would I do without you!

Hmmm... whatever. You have 3 posts and your going to come after me with "Editors and Librarians have been around" and by not spelling some two-bit hack job company name right? OK then.

My question is, why on earth will people care to spell Vyzor right when their editor dosen't even work correctly! I mean in a world of loads of software not supporting Universal Binaries yet on people's $1500 machines (thankfully not mine), I really don't think many people have time to waste on buggy editors. Sorry Mr. 3 posts. Hope your enjoying your demo or worse, cracked version of Live. Enjoy your stay!

Michael-SW
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Post by Michael-SW » Mon Oct 02, 2006 6:44 pm

markaugust wrote: ...
Really hope to get my hands on your editor as soon as possible.
What would be really cool is, if I could map my uc33e via the editor to my evolver; and have all those knobs to work the evolver as well. Dream or possibility?
You can already set up your UC33 to control the Evolver without the editor. Almost all Evolver parameters respond to MIDI CCs. You just need to set up a sensible template. I've been meaning to set up my BCR for that but other things has gotten in the way.

Psicraft Designs
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Post by Psicraft Designs » Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:30 am

Michael-SW wrote: You can already set up your UC33 to control the Evolver without the editor. Almost all Evolver parameters respond to MIDI CCs. You just need to set up a sensible template. I've been meaning to set up my BCR for that but other things has gotten in the way.
Hi Michael,

This is true for 40 of the 192 Evolver program parameters:

CC Parameter
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20 Oscillator 1 Frequency
21 Oscillator 2 Frequency
22 Oscillator 3 Frequency
23 Oscillator 4 Frequency
24 Oscillator 1 Level
25 Oscillator 2 Level
26 Oscillator 3 Level
27 Oscillator 4 Level
28 Oscillator 1 Shape
29 Oscillator 2 Shape
30 Oscillator 3 Shape
31 Oscillator 4 Shape
40 FM 4->3
41 FM 3->4
42 RM 4->3
43 RM 3->4
62 Noise Level
52 Low Pass Filter Frequency
53 Filter Resonance
54 Filter Envelope Amount
55 Filter Attack
56 Filter Decay
57 Filter Sustain
58 Filter Release
59 Filter Audio Mod
60 Filter Split
61 Filter Key Amount
75 Amp Attack
76 Amp Decay
77 Amp Sustain
78 Amp Release
13 Highpass Filter Cutoff
85 Feedback Frequency
86 Feedback Level
12 Distortion
102 Delay 1 Time
103 Delay 2 Time
104 Delay 3 Time
105 Delay 1 Amount
106 Delay 2 Amount
107 Delay 3 Amount
108 Delay Feedback 1
109 Delay Feedback 2
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This is a good selection to be certain, but it is not most of them. Also, original desktop Evolvers that have not been upgraded with the V3 firmware chip do not respond to any CCs natively, which makes editor CC mapping essential for owners of these Evolvers.

Cheers,

Tony
Tony Antoniou, B.Eng. M.A.Sc.
Director of Product Development
Psicraft Designs, Inc.

ArguZ
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Good products vs ignorant customers

Post by ArguZ » Sun Feb 25, 2007 3:28 pm

I just ordered my MEK and of course I spent some time googling around for "merchandise" as well.
I use a green microwave together with the sound tower editor and I have to say it works quite well.
But its just so...so..geeky and boring design wise.
I will defintly go for the PsiCraft one just because I think they feel like I do for my gear...I want it as nice as possible because I spend a lot of time on it.
But of course...everybody would find an evaluation version very useful to test it before you waste that insane amount of money

And ricky...looks like you still like to blame other people instead of beeing a little bit more relaxed and trust in karma...Seems like the Yoga doesnt help that much in the end
:twisted:

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