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Post by NorthernMonkey » Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:11 am

Voodu wrote:So, am I right in that you cannot control live's mixer or transport when in this template? Template 38 that is. I show "1 rewire mixer connected" on the lcd, but moving the sliders does not move the knobs inside Ableton.

If that is the case, I must say I am a little dissappointed. What good is being able to tweak the plug-in if you have no conytol over the transport controls or the mixer? Thanks again!!!
Yep, template #38 is plugin auto-mapping only, template #40 as you were before, plugins and mixer.

Edit: Just checked again, you do still have most of the transport control in #38, just not global record or double stop to reset to zero.
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Post by NorthernMonkey » Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:32 am

So, the issues discovered so far (due to either user or software errors):

1. 'Enable Pot Pickup' setting has no effect (parameters simply jump to the next transmitted value when switching between plugins);
2. No tempo control from Remote;
3. Reduced transport control in #38;
4. 'Automap Focus Follows Plug-in UI' setting has no effect (the manual states 'activating this causes the SL to map to which ever plug-in is currently selected in your DAW' - I still have to manually enable the 'A' on the automap strip to get the remote to switch plugin mappings)

I/we may be missing something here, so share you findings!
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Post by LOFA » Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:40 am

Voodu wrote:So, am I right in that you cannot control live's mixer or transport when in this template? Template 38 that is. I show "1 rewire mixer connected" on the lcd, but moving the sliders does not move the knobs inside Ableton.

If that is the case, I must say I am a little dissappointed. What good is being able to tweak the plug-in if you have no conytol over the transport controls or the mixer? Thanks again!!!
The point is that for those of us with motorized faders specifically dedicated to this task already. it is redundant, whereas instead we get more control over needed, on-the-fly demands.

If I understand this feature correctly, it is a request that I was begging for. 8O

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Post by palimpsest73 » Wed Feb 28, 2007 5:39 am

Has anyone gotten the Automap Plug-In manager program to work? I get an error saying it can't create resource files in the Plug-In directory. And when I try to drag he installed plugs into the automap enabled side, nothing appears. Ditto in Live, no automap version plugs available. This is baffling, the SL itself updated just fine.
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Post by aqua_tek » Wed Feb 28, 2007 6:49 am

just downloaded the installer. Will run it tomorrow

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Post by Tone Deft » Wed Feb 28, 2007 7:29 am

I got the 3.0 OS after changing my ID port back to USBA, but no template updates. Also, my computer doesn't recognise the SL anymore (XP saying it's a new device), haven't launched Live yet to see what's up.

Shit, guess it was my turn to have problems, I dodged a lot of bullets with this beast.


Any tips? Will try later... :evil: shitfuckgoddamnitmotherfuckingcocksmokingfrigginfragginsmizzlesmuzzlekljhdsfkjahdsf!!!!
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Post by debu » Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:22 am

at least your damn SL will turn on!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by Tone Deft » Wed Feb 28, 2007 8:34 am

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Post by Cryptic UK » Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:23 am

When installing this I think people should read the instructions step by step not missing anything as you go, make sure :wink:
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Post by NorthernMonkey » Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:47 am

Tone Deft wrote:I got the 3.0 OS after changing my ID port back to USBA, but no template updates. Also, my computer doesn't recognise the SL anymore (XP saying it's a new device), haven't launched Live yet to see what's up.

Shit, guess it was my turn to have problems, I dodged a lot of bullets with this beast.


Any tips? Will try later... :evil: shitfuckgoddamnitmotherfuckingcocksmokingfrigginfragginsmizzlesmuzzlekljhdsfkjahdsf!!!!
I'm sure you did similar, but this is what I did...

1. Uninstall the previous remote software
2. Switch the remote off
3. Install the new software, following the instructions about switching on/off, etc.
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Post by NorthernMonkey » Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:09 am

palimpsest73 wrote:Has anyone gotten the Automap Plug-In manager program to work? I get an error saying it can't create resource files in the Plug-In directory. And when I try to drag he installed plugs into the automap enabled side, nothing appears. Ditto in Live, no automap version plugs available. This is baffling, the SL itself updated just fine.
Maybe something to do with folder permissions? When you drag the plugins to the automap enabled side in the manager an 'Automap' wrapper is created alongside the original plugin that can then be loaded as a plugin within Live (or whatever DAW you're using) - for some reason your manager can't created the wrappers.
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Post by Krugger » Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:21 am

I have some good news chaps.

Called up Novation just now and mentioned the "Pot/Fader pickup" feature in the Automap Server settings not working (getting jumps when switching plugins either via Ableton track switching or using the SL directly).

He'll be looking into it as I'm typing this as they want a solid release ASAP.

He asked to keep an eye on http://88.208.201.18/answerbase/category.php?id=39
for any changes etc or even the downloads area.

By the way, lots of problems have answers in the answer base area (link above) - you might wanna check it out if you're having major issues.

If the parameter jump bug is fixed, I'll have to agree: it's a fucking nice controller to have at the moment to control those crazy plugins!

Fingers crossed.
Kr.

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Post by NorthernMonkey » Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:25 am

Krugger wrote:I have some good news chaps.

Called up Novation just now and mentioned the "Pot/Fader pickup" feature in the Automap Server settings not working (getting jumps when switching plugins either via Ableton track switching or using the SL directly).

He'll be looking into it as I'm typing this as they want a solid release ASAP.

He asked to keep an eye on http://88.208.201.18/answerbase/category.php?id=39
for any changes etc or even the downloads area.

By the way, lots of problems have answers in the answer base area (link above) - you might wanna check it out if you're having major issues.

If the parameter jump bug is fixed, I'll have to agree: it's a fucking nice controller to have at the moment to control those crazy plugins!

Fingers crossed.
Can you see any noticable affect of switching the 'Automap Focus Follows Plug-in UI' on/off? Doesn't seem to make any difference for me.
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Post by Cryptic UK » Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:26 am

Class support Class company Universal Automap Class 8)
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Post by Krugger » Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:27 am

I'm not Batman at the moment - In my day job, can't check.

Once I get home and put my super hero costume back on, I'll give it a go.

I see what you mean though, if it's not working and you actually want it to retain a plugin while switching to other tracks, it'd annoy you!

Kr.
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