Should play position jump when adjusting loop & start?

djsynchro · Post by **djsynchro** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:09 pm

Ok here's the deal:
When Live 5 was in beta, Ableton changed the behaviour that when you move the start marker or the loop of a clip, the play position jumps.

There were some people at the time who were making a lot of noise saying it could be used as an effect making the play position jump and stutter. Then there was talk of being able to choose between the old and the new behaviour, and then the old behaviour was reinstated - no choice.

At the time I didn't really follow the whole thing so I didn't really know what was going on, or I would have voted for the non-jumping behaviour. (Or the switch.)

This behaviour is driving me nuts!!! When trying to find good sections of audio for example in a vocal take every time I move the start or loop markers the audio jumps, and I don't want that.

It sounds really amateur for a DAW for audio to jump. Also for DJing and playing Live it would be much much better if the audio didn't jump this way.

What do you think?
Please vote!

djsynchro · Post by **djsynchro** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:51 pm

djsynchro · Post by **djsynchro** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:47 am

djsynchro · Post by **djsynchro** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:23 pm

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:00 pm

*tumbleweeds*

nonnus · Post by **nonnus** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:24 pm

djsynchro:
this is a little offtopic but for some time i wanted to ask you,

are you related to synchro, from the trance scene some years ago ?

LOFA · Post by **LOFA** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:51 pm

I'm going to go ahead and vote against this thing. While it seems like the tendency around here is give something the benefit of the doubt and say "well it should at least be a preference since for some unknown reason it was impletemented in the first place" but after a year and a half of this behavior I still have not found a single use for it and have had it butcher my performances and especially my workflow.

Please remove this behavior. In no way do I see it as a compliment to live's intuitive workflow.

djsynchro · Post by **djsynchro** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:02 am

nonnus wrote:djsynchro:
this is a little offtopic but for some time i wanted to ask you,

are you related to synchro, from the trance scene some years ago ?

Yeah it's me.

Come on everybody! Live is about realtime, no glitching LIVE performing, you can drop in effects on the fly, and then we have this weird play position jumping crap??? It's driving me nuts. This is more important than Britney Spears hairdo!!!!!!

j0shu@ · Post by **j0shu@** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:09 am

LOFA wrote:Please remove this behavior. In no way do I see it as a compliment to live's intuitive workflow.

+1

djsynchro · Post by **djsynchro** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 3:05 pm

Bump.

I know most of the messages on this board are about things totally unrelated to Live now, but this is important.

smartass303 · Post by **smartass303** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:20 pm

This truly is important!
But most of the people on the Board are talking about shaving each others Testicles or going off to Afghanistan to kill somebody...

Maybe they don`t even make music but shave Testicles and kill someone all day long. Who knows?

bgc · Post by **bgc** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 4:48 pm

+1 for removing the beast.

djsynchro · Post by **djsynchro** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:16 pm

rajcoont · Post by **rajcoont** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:57 pm

i must say that i think this is a pretty useless feature that has never really come in handy. let's lose it

rat · Post by **rat** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 12:58 am

+1 wastes time trying to fix the beat live

Should play position jump when adjusting loop & start?

Should the play position jump when you move the start marker or loop braces?

Should play position jump when adjusting loop & start?