http://www.djsasha.com/djtimes.htm
I've been reading about this for a while and wondered if he had got into Live - and now I know!
Now with Live 4 announced, I think people will look back on these days as being the time when something amazing happened in production and DJing.
RH
Sasha 'Involver' Mix CD
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Hope this is ok! I copied all the parts pertaining to Ableton Live. 
DJ Times: What’s some of the software that you’re using on Involver?
Sasha: We’re using Ableton Live, and this project wouldn’t be possible without that software. Ableton allows us to audition stuff on the fly really quickly. You can just cut-and-paste so fast, and now it takes us seconds to do what, before, would have taken us several minutes.
DJ Times: How are you using Ableton Live, specifically?
Sasha: We’ve taken something and had it pitch-shifted, stretched, and we can throw mad ideas at a mix and get it to work. Maybe some sounds you made three years ago now you can draw upon, with Ableton. I definitely think that because you can audition stuff on-the-fly, [Ableton Live] allows me to more spontaneously throw a round of things in. Once you spend time on making a sound, you get attached to it and you’re trying to make it fit into a track because you invested so much time into it. Now with Ableton, it allows you to really think creatively.
DJ Times: How do you have Ableton Live wired?
Sasha: We’ve got [Ableton Live] re-wired into Logic [Audio]. Logic is still the writing tool, but that’s basically our set-up now. We’re running everything on a really powerful G5 Mac, like Panther Logic. It’s a pretty slick operation, to be honest. We have another studio set-up, which is basically our mix room, and it’s got speakers and a big, fat Apple monitor and stuff. It’s our really acoustically good-sounding room. Another room I have is with all of my old analog and outboard gear, PCs and a lot of software available for PC and stuff like that.
February 20 – Session #2
DJ Times: Ableton Live re-wired into Logic Audio is still your main setup?
Sasha: Yeah, and the thing is, this week, the guys from M-Audio sent me over a load of controllers to test with [Ableton] Live, and I hooked-up the controllers to Live on my laptop and I was DJing with it at home. It’s really amazing.
February 27 – Session #3
DJ Times: How has your progress been this past week?
Sasha: We’re cool. We’re really rockin’ it in the studio. Definitely making progress. We’re still making arrangements in [Ableton] Live, and then we’re sitting back and letting it sink-in for a couple of days. Then, we’ll go back and re-arrange things, as well as make the tracks sound unique on their own. I’m also aware of how each track fits on the album, but everything seems to be falling into place. I think the reality of having a studio in one’s house and constantly battling other distractions and staying focused can be a challenge. I’m still moving into my [new Miami area] home little by little.
DJ Times: How do you like it?
Sasha: I’m really excited about the fact that it just gives me so much freedom. You can pull records apart and re-edit a song while you’re in a club and actually mix together out of different tracks. Now that I’ve spent some time with the M-Audio controllers, I realize how amazing Live is, from a DJ’s point-of-view. What I can do in a club using Live is just amazing. It’s formed a bridge between the studio and the DJ world that’s never happened before. I’ll be working in the same [software] environment in both the studio and in the clubs, which will lead me to put both worlds together. I’ll be almost working on ideas in the studio while I’m DJing, and I can transfer tracks that work well from the club setting into the studio. It’s really blown my mind.
DJ Times: You said last week that Ableton Live 3 is having a huge impact on you as a DJ.
Sasha: I’m definitely using Live to re-invent my DJ sets. I really like Final Scratch software, which is revolutionary as a DJ tool. I was going down that route, but then I started playing with Live and it’s taken me into different directions. When I first start using Live, it’ll be like a third turntable, and then I’ll slowly incorporate it more. At the moment, I have parts of different tracks from different people, like Underworld, and I’m mixing records together in the studio. I’m actually talking to the M-Audio people now that I’ve got my head around what I want to accomplish. It’s only been the last couple of weeks that I’m seeing how to DJ with it. The algorithms created with Live are so simple and powerful. I think not many people have gotten onto it yet, but it’s definitely caused a revolution in my [DJ] set. In the studio, we’re running Live through Logic, Native Instruments stuff, and we’ve got Reaktor going.
DJ Times: What’s some of the software that you’re using on Involver?
Sasha: We’re using Ableton Live, and this project wouldn’t be possible without that software. Ableton allows us to audition stuff on the fly really quickly. You can just cut-and-paste so fast, and now it takes us seconds to do what, before, would have taken us several minutes.
DJ Times: How are you using Ableton Live, specifically?
Sasha: We’ve taken something and had it pitch-shifted, stretched, and we can throw mad ideas at a mix and get it to work. Maybe some sounds you made three years ago now you can draw upon, with Ableton. I definitely think that because you can audition stuff on-the-fly, [Ableton Live] allows me to more spontaneously throw a round of things in. Once you spend time on making a sound, you get attached to it and you’re trying to make it fit into a track because you invested so much time into it. Now with Ableton, it allows you to really think creatively.
DJ Times: How do you have Ableton Live wired?
Sasha: We’ve got [Ableton Live] re-wired into Logic [Audio]. Logic is still the writing tool, but that’s basically our set-up now. We’re running everything on a really powerful G5 Mac, like Panther Logic. It’s a pretty slick operation, to be honest. We have another studio set-up, which is basically our mix room, and it’s got speakers and a big, fat Apple monitor and stuff. It’s our really acoustically good-sounding room. Another room I have is with all of my old analog and outboard gear, PCs and a lot of software available for PC and stuff like that.
February 20 – Session #2
DJ Times: Ableton Live re-wired into Logic Audio is still your main setup?
Sasha: Yeah, and the thing is, this week, the guys from M-Audio sent me over a load of controllers to test with [Ableton] Live, and I hooked-up the controllers to Live on my laptop and I was DJing with it at home. It’s really amazing.
February 27 – Session #3
DJ Times: How has your progress been this past week?
Sasha: We’re cool. We’re really rockin’ it in the studio. Definitely making progress. We’re still making arrangements in [Ableton] Live, and then we’re sitting back and letting it sink-in for a couple of days. Then, we’ll go back and re-arrange things, as well as make the tracks sound unique on their own. I’m also aware of how each track fits on the album, but everything seems to be falling into place. I think the reality of having a studio in one’s house and constantly battling other distractions and staying focused can be a challenge. I’m still moving into my [new Miami area] home little by little.
DJ Times: How do you like it?
Sasha: I’m really excited about the fact that it just gives me so much freedom. You can pull records apart and re-edit a song while you’re in a club and actually mix together out of different tracks. Now that I’ve spent some time with the M-Audio controllers, I realize how amazing Live is, from a DJ’s point-of-view. What I can do in a club using Live is just amazing. It’s formed a bridge between the studio and the DJ world that’s never happened before. I’ll be working in the same [software] environment in both the studio and in the clubs, which will lead me to put both worlds together. I’ll be almost working on ideas in the studio while I’m DJing, and I can transfer tracks that work well from the club setting into the studio. It’s really blown my mind.
DJ Times: You said last week that Ableton Live 3 is having a huge impact on you as a DJ.
Sasha: I’m definitely using Live to re-invent my DJ sets. I really like Final Scratch software, which is revolutionary as a DJ tool. I was going down that route, but then I started playing with Live and it’s taken me into different directions. When I first start using Live, it’ll be like a third turntable, and then I’ll slowly incorporate it more. At the moment, I have parts of different tracks from different people, like Underworld, and I’m mixing records together in the studio. I’m actually talking to the M-Audio people now that I’ve got my head around what I want to accomplish. It’s only been the last couple of weeks that I’m seeing how to DJ with it. The algorithms created with Live are so simple and powerful. I think not many people have gotten onto it yet, but it’s definitely caused a revolution in my [DJ] set. In the studio, we’re running Live through Logic, Native Instruments stuff, and we’ve got Reaktor going.
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faisal
This si excellent and inspiring news.now be Laptop DJ's will be more accepted in the clubs. in BT's NAMM vid he did mention that Sasha and Digweed wanted to get into Live.
Anyone know if he's using a PowerBook or a PC Laptop ? Just out of curiosity as it would maybe give us some light into how he is really using it. Great news.
Anyone know if he's using a PowerBook or a PC Laptop ? Just out of curiosity as it would maybe give us some light into how he is really using it. Great news.
In the complete interview Sasha says he uses Mac, but he was seamlessly exchanging Live projects with a producer in the UK who was on PC. Sasha is a Logic user so naturally he is an Apple guy (for now! lol)faisal wrote:This si excellent and inspiring news.now be Laptop DJ's will be more accepted in the clubs. in BT's NAMM vid he did mention that Sasha and Digweed wanted to get into Live.
Anyone know if he's using a PowerBook or a PC Laptop ? Just out of curiosity as it would maybe give us some light into how he is really using it. Great news.
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Guest
Sasha is indeed on a Mac. I would be interested what he has to say about Ableton after the V4 announcement...! It sounds like he finds Logic a little complicated (me too), so maybe it will go. Someone this high-profile getting behind Live will really push everything forward, IMHO. Makes Adam Freeland's luddite comment in Computer Music about laptop artists 'just hitting the space bar' seem a little foolish.
By the way, if you join Sasha's mailing list you could get all of the samples to every track off his Air Drawn Dagger LP from the artist area. I've been playing around with them in Live for months now.
I wonder what the new controller Sasha mentions is like??
By the way, if you join Sasha's mailing list you could get all of the samples to every track off his Air Drawn Dagger LP from the artist area. I've been playing around with them in Live for months now.
I wonder what the new controller Sasha mentions is like??
Using Logic with Live in rewire mode
Why we use Logic as the main creative part of our setup is for a number reasons.
1. The midi first and foremost, but as we all know this is soon to change.
2. The routing and bussing is much more comprehensive in Logic, which alows us to do much greater sound manipulation during mixdown.
3. The automation side of Logic is far more complex and easier to edit than within Live.
4. There are also more plugins available to use in Logic and they are usually much more stable than when run in Live.
Live has for sure opened up a whole new world of possibilities for us, but it still has to grow up a bit if it wants to compete with the big boys. hense the reason for using logic as its big brother when mixing down tracks.
1. The midi first and foremost, but as we all know this is soon to change.
2. The routing and bussing is much more comprehensive in Logic, which alows us to do much greater sound manipulation during mixdown.
3. The automation side of Logic is far more complex and easier to edit than within Live.
4. There are also more plugins available to use in Logic and they are usually much more stable than when run in Live.
Live has for sure opened up a whole new world of possibilities for us, but it still has to grow up a bit if it wants to compete with the big boys. hense the reason for using logic as its big brother when mixing down tracks.
My comments where in no way critising Live. When we started working on the Involver album there where still some issues with Live that we needed to address, and Logic has always allowed us options to get around these.dfusion wrote:Bazzevo - With respect to Ableton, they are promoting the Midi in Live 4 to be "groovebox" like. I think of it as an asset to the program, not a replacement for any other sequencer. I'm not sure how intuitive it will be to write an entire track in Live, but I'm sure plenty of people will do it.
Live has been a major turning point for both Sasha and I. We used to use a $40,000 Protools rig which has now almost become obsolete.
There are things however we've had to learn to do with out. But this happens in all cases when newer technology appears.
I was first unsure of what Live could offer if midi was implemented but now i for sure see the light. It will make greater opportunities for sample manipulation which is always a good thing.
And also being able to quantize audio is going to be amazing. its almost time to give up using Recycle which i've been using for years.
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Pete Gawtry
BAZZA !!!
Heheh .. been a while me old mucka .. How's LA?
On the forum trying to figure out why the f**k Live wont open up properly anymore in rewire with Logic.. Keeps telling me theres another Damn fu**in rewire master open when there aint.. GRRR annoying
Need to add a new loop in to me new track .. and I now rely on Live that much .. annoyed .. anyone tell me why this is happening ..
and bazza .. any new Evolution stuff coming or is that capput>?
Last time I saw you was in that club in LA .. played at that dive after that place .. was shit ..
pete .. aka pedro delgardo
Heheh .. been a while me old mucka .. How's LA?
On the forum trying to figure out why the f**k Live wont open up properly anymore in rewire with Logic.. Keeps telling me theres another Damn fu**in rewire master open when there aint.. GRRR annoying
Need to add a new loop in to me new track .. and I now rely on Live that much .. annoyed .. anyone tell me why this is happening ..
and bazza .. any new Evolution stuff coming or is that capput>?
Last time I saw you was in that club in LA .. played at that dive after that place .. was shit ..
pete .. aka pedro delgardo
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Pete:
Are you running Live and Logic together on OS 9 or OS X?
If you are on X simply head into your root Library folder, go into Application Support, and delete the Rewire module found in there.
Restart Logic...
It will give you a message that it is reinstalling Rewire support...
This will reset the behaviour of rewire between Logic and Live.
Are you running Live and Logic together on OS 9 or OS X?
If you are on X simply head into your root Library folder, go into Application Support, and delete the Rewire module found in there.
Restart Logic...
It will give you a message that it is reinstalling Rewire support...
This will reset the behaviour of rewire between Logic and Live.
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