[OT] - Interview with a former Jihadist

[M. Bréqs]

Remember kiddies, it's all fun to post anti-military sentiment on the internet, but that's because a military man died to give you that right.

Nope, it's because we stole the internet from the military.

(As most of the technology used nowadays)

Actually, the US military GAVE the internet to the public if I recall correctly. I was referring indirectly to the freedom of speach that European / North American internet users enjoy.

But you're right that the military developed the Internet (it WASN'T Al Gore by the way). It's the same with GPS, same with satellite imagery technology, nuclear power and satellite communications. Same with sonar (used in lots of seabed exploratory purposes), same with jet engines, same with rockets and radar.

[pepezabala]

It is the soldier, not the reporter,
who has given us freedom of the press.

It is the soldier, not the poet,
who has given us freedom of speech.

It is the soldier, not the campus organizer,
who has given us the freedom to demonstrate.

It is the soldier, not the lawyer,
who has given us the right to a fair trial.

It is the soldier,
who salutes the flag,
who serves under the flag,
and whose coffin is draped by the flag,
who allows the protester to burn the flag.

and it's the reporter, the poet, the campus organizer, the lawyer and some millions of other people who have to pay the soldier with their taxes.

And the soldier keeps on telling them "if you don't pay me you're in great danger", and buys weapons of individual destruction, and of mass destruction, so the people on the other side pay their soldiers ...

[Patch]

I'm not religious, but I don't call myself an atheist.
Is someone without religion considered an atheist?

Actually, the more I think about it, I don't really believe in Atheism either...

I got fuckin' loads of faith in myself, though.

[M. Bréqs]

and it's the reporter, the poet, the campus organizer, the lawyer and some millions of other people who have to pay the soldier with their taxes.

As do soldiers pay their taxes to subsidize the reporter, the poet, the campus organizer and the laywer (through the national / public media, subsidies and grants to the arts, through bursaries and subsidized education, and by financing the legal system not to mention providing legal aid).

And the soldier keeps on telling them "if you don't pay me you're in great danger"...

The truth can be uncomfortable, but it's a soldier's duty to be honest to the society he serves.

and buys weapons of individual destruction, and of mass destruction, so the people on the other side pay their soldiers ...

I would gladly disband the military, providing the other nations do it first. So you're right there, but that's human nature, and I don't think you can circumvent that.

Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state.

[glu]

Conquest is not in our principles. It is inconsistent with our government.

[pepezabala]

and it's the reporter, the poet, the campus organizer, the lawyer and some millions of other people who have to pay the soldier with their taxes.

As do soldiers pay their taxes to subsidize the reporter, the poet, the campus organizer and the laywer (through the national / public media, subsidies and grants to the arts, through bursaries and subsidized education, and by financing the legal system not to mention providing legal aid).

Well, maybe soldiers pay taxes, but the who pays the income that they pay their taxes from? If the governments would only spend as half on education and investigation as on their military budget ... maybe we would have some more citizens who know that there are different ways to solve conflicts. For the military men every shot bullet is a legitimate reason to shoot another one. For me every shot bullet is one too many.

[noisetonepause]

dhim·mi - A Qur'anic term that refers to a subjugated non-Muslim person living in a society dominated by Muslims. Second-class status is confirmed by the legal system and dhimmis do not share the rights of their Muslim rulers.

dhim·wit - A non-Muslim member of a free society that abets the stated cause of Islamic domination with remarkable gullibility or guile. A dhimwit is always quick to extend sympathy to the very enemy that would take away his or her own freedom (or life) if given the opportunity.

You never will stop, will you...

Dhimmi - non-Muslim under protection of Muslim law. A covenant of protection was made with conquered "Peoples of the book" which included Jews, Christians, Sabaeans and sometimes Zoroastrians and Hindus. Adult male Dhimmis were required to pay a tax on their income and sometimes on their land. Restrictions and regulations in dress, occupation, and residence were often applied. In return, Islam offered Dhimmis security of life and property, defense against enemies, communal self-government, and freedom of religious practice. In the modern period, dhimmi status has declined in importance as a result of the formation of nation-states and Western or quasi-Western legal codes.

What is the source of that rubbish you posted, by the way? You do know that in most modern Arabic dialects, as well as in Persian, Turkish and possibly Pashto, the dh-sound, which was orginially a voiced interdental fricative (THem), is now pronounced as either an s or z and that it is only in colloquial Maghrebi where the word dhimmi is pronounced dimmi, right... zimwit?

By the way, an update:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/ ... 2308.shtml

We were very well-versed in the Koran, in the verses of the Koran, in the sayings of the Prophet and show that how it was permissible for people to go around killing innocent men, women and children.

I could find you one Hassan per second for 60 minutes (60 days, too, I reckon) who would tell you that he's read the Qur'an and disagrees with that reading. I'd offer to organise it, too, but I know you're beyond repair.

[M. Bréqs]

You never will stop, will you...

Of course I will. I'll stop as soon as islam goes through an introspective reformation whereby the overwhelming majority of adherents admit that the Qu'ran isn't inspired by god but rather a book by some dude that contains the good and the bad; superstition, moral guidlines for living, and murderous incitement, like the vast majority of Christians and Jews did with their holy books.

[M. Bréqs]

You do know that in most modern Arabic dialects, as well as in Persian, Turkish and possibly Pashto, the dh-sound, which was orginially a voiced interdental fricative (THem), is now pronounced as either an s or z and that it is only in colloquial Maghrebi where the word dhimmi is pronounced dimmi, right... zimwit?

Fantastic, thanks for the lesson in pronunciation. In every English application I've heard, it's pronounced "Dimm-E". I speak English, so I pronounce it that way (as would most Anglophones).

What is the source of that rubbish you posted, by the way?

A number of forums interested in challenging radical ideologies have coined the term Dhimwit themselves.

I quite like the term, I find it very discriptive and concise. It's got Truthiness to it.

I could find you one Hassan per second for 60 minutes (60 days, too, I reckon) who would tell you that he's read the Qur'an and disagrees with that reading. I'd offer to organise it, too, but I know you're beyond repair.

But the question is, what do the MAJORITY of Hassans around the world believe? Yourself (and any small groups or individuals you can demonstrate), though you may be examples of modernism, moderation and secularism in islam, do not make a global trend.

The recent Pew Global Attitudes Project didn't fill me with hope for the future compatibility of islam and secular liberalism. Sorry.

[leisuremuffin]

bump?

[epiphanius]

M. Breqs went to Afghanistan, his actions were congruent to his beliefs in this regard.

Haven't heard from him here lately. Has anyone been following his adventures ? (I'll go look for his posts now).



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[alexjholland]

M. Breqs - just wanted to say thanks for posting that article, I thought it was a fascinating read.

Do you have a link to it anywhere on the internet so I can Facebook it?

Thanks Again!

[smartass303]

N E C R O B U M P!

glu?

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