loop question

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jcroot
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loop question

Post by jcroot » Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:43 pm

So I think I've looked around enough at this point to ask this:

Is there any way to create a midi drum loop (played live from a pad controller), and then essentially reset the bar markers so that what Ableton considers a bar is defined by your drum loop (and keep the original beats per minute intact)? This would be helpful say when recreating a beat from a recording so that you're not having to match the tempo of Ableton to the track first, then playing in the hits for the loop.

Thanks for any help.

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Post by jcroot » Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:48 am

sorry for the bump

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Post by Tone Deft » Sun Apr 01, 2007 12:53 am

if I get you right...

Make your drum loop, in clip view make a loop bar that's 1 measure long (or 2 or whatever you need, but specify an even length.) Set the begining and end of the loop markers so you loop loops smoothly, even if that's too fast or too slow.

Once it loops smoothly, look for the 'original bpm' in clip view, at the top of Live's screen set the global bpm to this value.

If it's telling you your loop is 270 bpm when you know it's at 135 bpm, use the 'divide by two' button to halve the bpm, same with 'multiply by two'.
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jcroot
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Post by jcroot » Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:28 pm

thanks! I'll try it today.

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Post by jcroot » Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:30 pm

where did you find that movie btw? hilarious

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Post by jcroot » Sun Apr 01, 2007 5:10 pm

Thanks. That was what I was looking for. I tried something else though so I thought to post it. I made the loop following the recording, then set the loop brackets so they fell on an even bar ( 1 or 2), and then adjusted the clip bpm so that the midi notes fell within the loop and looped properly then adjusted the global bpm to the new clip bpm. I think that's close to what you were suggesting but wasn't sure if it might be a little different (adjusting the clip bpm). Thanks a lot for the help.

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Post by Tone Deft » Sun Apr 01, 2007 7:11 pm

It's all about describing the loop length to live correctly, forget the bpm. You tell Live "this is the '1', here's the '2', the '3', the '4'". When the global bpm matches the clip's bpm then the clip plays at its original speed. I think you got it, trust your ears, use common sense, it'll work out.

That movie is just something I found on a camera in the computer lab, I think it's fake.
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Post by jcroot » Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:30 pm

thanks again.

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