Using Reason Effects on Live recorded stuff...

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Using Reason Effects on Live recorded stuff...

Post by cc » Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:52 pm

Hey cool people,

I'm getting to know REASON step by step and am now learning about "effects" (solely in REASON).

Let's say for example, that I used a synth in REASON to create a funky bass line and (via re-wire), recorded it into LIVE.

My question is: how do I apply effects FROM REASON to the recorded stuff in LIVE?

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Post by particle » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:19 pm

man, i would love to be able to do that, i'v yet to find out if its possible though..

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Post by biorhythm » Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:46 am

Unfortunately there's no way to Rewire audio from Live into Reason. You'd have to use workarounds like opening rendered files from Live inside an NNXT or NN19, or using Recycle to import the rendered file as a REX.

My hope is that an upcoming version of Reason could be embedded as a plug-in in a DAW like Live, Protools, etc.--I'll keep my fingers crossed! :wink:

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Re: Using Reason Effects on Live recorded stuff...

Post by RhythmSickness » Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:56 am

cc wrote:Hey cool people,

I'm getting to know REASON step by step and am now learning about "effects" (solely in REASON).

Let's say for example, that I used a synth in REASON to create a funky bass line and (via re-wire), recorded it into LIVE.

My question is: how do I apply effects FROM REASON to the recorded stuff in LIVE?
The only way to do this, would be to apply the effects to the bassline you wrote in reason, actually in reason and reimport the effected audio of it via rewire into Live

There may well be some terrible latency inducing method with the asio4all drivers as well but then it is very hard to record from what I have gathered

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Post by beatpoet » Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:48 pm

Petertools Hammer allows you to do this, they found a way through the way rebirth works over rewire.


Don't know if you can rewire hammer and Live though.


check out the demo



http://www.petertools.com/hammer/

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Post by method » Tue Mar 27, 2007 4:29 pm

there's also www.jackosx.com

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Post by beatpoet » Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:14 pm

Not sure this (jackosx) will work with reason as it technically has no audio inputs, they must be 'created' through a rewire implementation.

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Post by method » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:27 pm

lol you're right.

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Apply Effects

Post by vijaywins » Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:44 pm

Hi,

Its pretty easy if you connect Reason as a Slave to Ableton Live.

1. First you need to make Ableton as the Host and Reason as a rewired slave.
2. Then you must add Synth as well as Effects modules in the Reason which will be seen in the Rewired Device list of Ableton.

I do the same way and it works pretty well. Bbye. Best of luck.
vijay didla

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Post by Majnun » Sun Apr 01, 2007 10:17 pm

I'm going to try to convince you to stop using effects in Reason if you are using Ableton.

I'm a HUGE fan of Reason (made two trance/dnb albums exclusively with it), and recently got into Ableton.

There's nothing you can do in Reason you can't do (better?) in Ableton Live - as far as effects go.

I'd suggest if you are using Ableton as your sequencer/multi-track recorder, that you consider spending some time with Ableton's effects.

The nice thing about Reason is that it looks and feels like you are wiring up real devices. Everything is a little more abstract in Live, but you have all the same (and more) chaining options within Live. Also, Live's concept of session tracks and clips is so much more in line with the creative process than the standard linear time line of other sequences (like Reason), and it has that linear view you can use too.

[Writing this from memory, so if any of this is wrong, someone who has more experience with Live plesae correct me:]

In Reason you can assign effects directly between the instrument and the mixer from the backside (tab) view. (You do this in Live simply by dragging the effect to the right of the the intrument in the instrument view.)

In Reason you can assign effects to the sends on the mixer using the effect send/return ports on the backside (tab) view. (You can do this with Live too, using the in/out drop downs on the channels)

If you are like me, and want to get something working fast in Reason because you know it better, send Reason's mixer out to reason output 1/2 (standard set up when creating a mixer in a blank song) and then bring that into Live by recording it into an audio channel (grab the Reason 1/2 from the input drop down). Remember: if you have effects like delay/reverb that you record the "tail" of effects trailing off so your effects don't suddenly cut off.

Personally, just use Reason when I know there is a sound or rex loop I want to bring into Live. I find Abletons effects to be superior, so I usually bring "dry" audio in from Reason, and add all the delay, chorus, reverb, eq, etc inside Ableton.


One minor annoyance I have with Live is that I can't record automation inside the session view, I have to draw it. (Unless I'm mistaken, any way to this?)

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