any virus ti happy owners?

bonomius · Post by **bonomius** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:13 pm

Hello,
i've found a good deal for a second hand virus ti,
and i think could be a nice addon to my actual setup,
(using mainly operator and sampler for sounds).
Btw i've read there are problems with ableton live,
mainly due to latency and a bug recording midi.
So are these problems still here?
Are these minor things or they make it inusable?
Thank for any suggest...

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:19 pm

I believe most of these issues have been worked out as of the v.2 of the Virus TI OS.

Cueing Tarekith in

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sqook · Post by **sqook** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:42 pm

I've got a TI, and am very happy with it.

It's true that there are latency issues when recording MIDI events with live, but there is a workaround... basically, you record through a secondary MIDI track, routing the output to the track that the Virus Control plugin is on. As long as you are recording on parts 2-16, there will be no delay.

It's a bit annoying, but at least it is functional in this manner. I've been told by support that the abes and the access guys are working together to come up with a fix, though.

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:47 pm

sqook wrote:I've got a TI, and am very happy with it. It's true that there are latency issues when recording MIDI events with live, but there is a workaround... basically, you record through a secondary MIDI track, routing the output to the track that the Virus Control plugin is on. As long as you are recording on parts 2-16, there will be no delay.

It's a bit annoying, but at least it is functional in this manner. I've been told by support that the abes and the access guys are working together to come up with a fix, though.

+1, other than this it's awesome.

bonomius · Post by **bonomius** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 3:48 pm

thanks sqook, good news.
Is it the only problem?
i'll use mainly the virus control.

burgessa23 · Post by **burgessa23** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 4:28 pm

I've got one it's awesome

sqook · Post by **sqook** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:14 pm

bonomius wrote:thanks sqook, good news.
Is it the only problem?
i'll use mainly the virus control.

Virus Control is nice, IMO. There are many virus users who don't seem to like it, and they just use MIDI instead... since I'm more of a software guy, I rely on VC heavily.

There are a few other minor annoyances with VC, but I wouldn't consider them to be "showstoppers". For instance, rendering doesn't work with VC, but that's really just because the Virus itself is a realtime instrument, so you have to record it in realtime. The workaround here is also easy -- you just create an audio track to resample the output of Virus Control and render that track with the rest of your arrangement. Similarly, you can't route each part on the virus independently... VC mixes all of them down for you, but the plugin does have its own little mixer, at least.

So there do exist a few "gotchas" with VC, but overall I find that it's a very efficient way to work with the hardware. My primary hardware used to be a nord lead and sh-101 that were in a shared studio with some friends, and the hassle of MIDI bussing and audio capture caused way more work and annoyance than Virus Control.

Actuel · Post by **Actuel** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:28 pm

happy!

seriously, best hardware i've purchase to date. she's a keeper

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:43 pm

sqook wrote:... since I'm more of a software guy, I rely on VC heavily.

I always knew you were!

bonomius · Post by **bonomius** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:50 pm

thanks guys for the feedbacks!
hope to be an happy owner soon!

shiba_dad · Post by **shiba_dad** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:12 pm

The TI is awesome ! Works great with Live especially since the latest OS.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:51 pm

Shiba...glad to see you chiming in

nuperspective · Post by **nuperspective** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:26 pm

yes me.

and no doubt tim allan will chime in at some point............

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:19 pm

would any of you TI owners know if/when Access plans to upgrade the TI to USB2.0?

As I understand it, the hardware is USB1.1, and that's part of the issues with bandwidth and digital flow into your DAW. Can you guys clarify the issues here?

Tarekith · Post by **Tarekith** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:26 pm

nebulae wrote:would any of you TI owners know if/when Access plans to upgrade the TI to USB2.0?

As I understand it, the hardware is USB1.1, and that's part of the issues with bandwidth and digital flow into your DAW. Can you guys clarify the issues here?

There are NO plans to upgrade, so don't even think about it. When Access developed the TI, it would have been too expensive to implement usb2,0, there were just no audio packages available for it they could leverage against, and it would have driven the cost up greatly. This is right from Access's mouth BTW, there's some posts about it onthe Virus TI forums.

Honestly, at this point they've sorted the whole 1.1 bandwidth issues for the TI's IMO. You need to think of the USB cable as doing nothing more than being a replacement for the analog outs and midi ports on the back. It doesn't let you stream 16 channels into Live or anything like that. You pretty much stream two stereo channels into the DAW, as well as midi and one set of analog signals if you use the TI as a soundcard.

I think a lot of people expected more from the TI aspects (I did), but once you understand that it's merely a replacement for the analog connections, it all makes more sense.

Anyway, I highly doubt that we'll see a new Virus anytime soon with USB2 or firewire. My guess is that Access has a lot more features to add to the current range still.