Digidesign Studio Monitors shipping next month.

Daim · Post by **Daim** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:50 pm

maybe they sell them with cinch adapters for maudio cards

Jan Holm · Post by **Jan Holm** » Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:06 pm

aqua_tek wrote:Until it's proven that they are EXTREMELY superior to current 5.5 and 6.7 monitors I honestly dont see why anyone would want to pay so much for them.

Pretty sure that a number of big profile names will tell you that
they are EXTREMELY superior - and they cant understand how they
were able to polish turds without them.

And they will honestly make you see.

Stiff · Post by **Stiff** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 4:15 pm

aqua_tek wrote:aww dont worry it's all in good fun

anyways the main thing for me is that they are just WAY too expensive. I mean... $1250 for a SINGLE 5.5"? that's a bit much.

Wont change my mind though. Still think they're WAY too expensive

Yeah, well, we all have different budgets. There are a lot of studios out there running more expensive monitors than that. Personally my songwriting studio has monitors only half the price and they work fine for me

mdb · Post by **mdb** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 4:41 am

Ahh yes, digidesign fucking more people out of hard earned cash. I hope they fucking rot in hell with there over price fucking proprietary bullshit.

The problem with digidesign is this...

Yes, they were the first "major" company to produce a professional system to record audio on your computer. There was nothing else that compared to it at the time of their arrival. It quickly became the industry standard for that reason. "The early bird gets the worm" -- Now, as we all know, there are plenty of alternatives for software and hardware that will do the job as good, if not better then protools. But digidesigns mentality is still back in 95/98. They think they can still charge outrageous prices since they are the "Industry standard". Well, the story is changing for them. Go read ANY Pro audio forum like Gear Slutz or something similar and youll see how many people are switching to other programs and hardware and selling off there "Slotools" burdens which requires you to keep diggin in your pockets for more, and more overprice bullshit from them. People aren't into getting fucked anymore when there are SOOOO many alternatives.

Which brings me to these fucking piece of shit monitors that there trying to pawn off on people for 1250 EACH?? Fuck you Digidesign!! Fuck you and your overprice rookie ball fuckin hardware/software that you made because its fucking "Trendy". Let me guess, ill need some kind of DRM embedded Ilok plugged into my speakers so that i can listen to an authentic digidesign mix. "We notice your speakers are playing back audio from a channel path that is not currently digidesign hardware. Audio will terminate after pressing close"

Their demise will be soon, very soon...

eyeknow · Post by **eyeknow** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 5:29 am

Stiff wrote:Sorry to jump in on your Digi-bashing party here, but eyeknow, your first thought was wrong. These monitors have nothing to do with M-Audio or the purchase of it. They were developed with PMC,

Expensive? Sure, but there are way more expensive monitors out there. Digidesign builds some really quality and affordable gear (think Control 24) and if you get the same bang for the buck here they will smoke the competition.

... On the other hand, they might suck. I'll hopefully get a pair next month. I'll let you know if they are good then.

I hear ya......but.......

they look like maudi stuff, so one would think.......

Ok, back to the bashing..........

Stiff · Post by **Stiff** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:11 pm

mdb wrote:Ahh yes, digidesign fucking more people out of hard earned cash. I hope they fucking rot in hell with there over price fucking proprietary bullshit.

The problem with digidesign is this...

Yes, they were the first "major" company to produce a professional system to record audio on your computer. There was nothing else that compared to it at the time of their arrival. It quickly became the industry standard for that reason. "The early bird gets the worm" -- Now, as we all know, there are plenty of alternatives for software and hardware that will do the job as good, if not better then protools. But digidesigns mentality is still back in 95/98. They think they can still charge outrageous prices since they are the "Industry standard". Well, the story is changing for them. Go read ANY Pro audio forum like Gear Slutz or something similar and youll see how many people are switching to other programs and hardware and selling off there "Slotools" burdens which requires you to keep diggin in your pockets for more, and more overprice bullshit from them. People aren't into getting fucked anymore when there are SOOOO many alternatives.

Which brings me to these fucking piece of shit monitors that there trying to pawn off on people for 1250 EACH?? Fuck you Digidesign!! Fuck you and your overprice rookie ball fuckin hardware/software that you made because its fucking "Trendy". Let me guess, ill need some kind of DRM embedded Ilok plugged into my speakers so that i can listen to an authentic digidesign mix. "We notice your speakers are playing back audio from a channel path that is not currently digidesign hardware. Audio will terminate after pressing close"

Their demise will be soon, very soon...

How can one be hating so much against a company that makes audio gear? If you don't like it - don't buy it. It's only tools... Stop hating and get a life man.

eyeknow · Post by **eyeknow** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:38 am

Seriously, without all the "you suck"....."no, you suck" crap, digi has pissed of some people in the mid/low market becuase you need a boatload of their stuff to run it. And the hardware isn't that great....hench, the ability to run protools (good) is always hindered by the no support/maudio-mbox-00whatever needed. Not to mention the fact that unless you run the HD system, plug ins are a MAJOR problem!

Love the software, hate the hardware/rules

Frankly, I can imagine most people seeing the prices and thinking "ha!, there are so many kick-butt monitors out there....." So until some people use them AND they just lay-waste to the competition......people are going to be skeptical.

AND this is an ableton forum, yes, we provide a wide palette of subjects....but we like the abe way. Know what I mean?

lunabass · Post by **lunabass** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 7:57 am

Stiff wrote:If you don't like it - don't buy it.

Well i did like it and I did buy it, a Digi001 card and Protools V5 when they were first released to be precise. Cost me $2000 aussie dollars. By version 6.4 they'd discontinued support of the 001 so it wont work with pro tools versions later than 6.4. Even though this card still works perfectly with Live and Reason till this day!

As much as i like Pro Tools, thats why I bash them...they treat their customers with contempt. Unfortunately I have to teach Pro Tools so there's no way of avoiding it.

eyeknow · Post by **eyeknow** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:44 am

lunabass wrote:
Stiff wrote:If you don't like it - don't buy it.
I have to teach Pro Tools so there's no way of avoiding it.

There is NO WAY of avoiding digi! Like em or not......the ARE the digital audio world in many ways!

Stiff · Post by **Stiff** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:26 pm

lunabass wrote:
Stiff wrote:If you don't like it - don't buy it.
Well i did like it and I did buy it, a Digi001 card and Protools V5 when they were first released to be precise. Cost me $2000 aussie dollars. By version 6.4 they'd discontinued support of the 001 so it wont work with pro tools versions later than 6.4. Even though this card still works perfectly with Live and Reason till this day!

As much as i like Pro Tools, thats why I bash them...they treat their customers with contempt. Unfortunately I have to teach Pro Tools so there's no way of avoiding it.

Yeah, I remember when the support for the 001 was dropped. There were in fact reasons for it besides being bastards (among other things, the change in Apple hardware) but I certainly understand your frustration regarding that.

Just out of curiosity, wouldn't you need to run a later version of Pro Tools if you're teaching it?

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:30 pm

eyeknow wrote:
lunabass wrote:
Stiff wrote:If you don't like it - don't buy it.
I have to teach Pro Tools so there's no way of avoiding it.
There is NO WAY of avoiding digi! [...]

I do just fine... juuuuuust fine. I saw them at musikmesse, all smug and salesman-like and I was like "sheesh, I'm glad I'm not part of "that" crowd"

Stiff · Post by **Stiff** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:35 pm

eyeknow wrote:Seriously, without all the "you suck"....."no, you suck" crap, digi has pissed of some people in the mid/low market becuase you need a boatload of their stuff to run it. And the hardware isn't that great....hench, the ability to run protools (good) is always hindered by the no support/maudio-mbox-00whatever needed. Not to mention the fact that unless you run the HD system, plug ins are a MAJOR problem!

Love the software, hate the hardware/rules

Frankly, I can imagine most people seeing the prices and thinking "ha!, there are so many kick-butt monitors out there....." So until some people use them AND they just lay-waste to the competition......people are going to be skeptical.

AND this is an ableton forum, yes, we provide a wide palette of subjects....but we like the abe way. Know what I mean?

I agree on the LE hardware, it's a shame there aren't more flexible solutions because they are as you say not the best. On the other hand, consider an Mbox mini, you can't get a software near as good as that price AND you get a soundcard with it. They are pretty good deals IMO. HD is way overpriced though. Digidesign have made some really quality gear to a low price, as I previously mentioned, the Control 24 is pretty amazing at the price. I don't really know what you mean by major plug-in problems though, I write songs for a living, I mix songs for a living and I produce for a living, the majority of the time I'm on an LE system. Works just fine... Remember the Beatles & the four track and all that jazz

In the end it's all tools as I said. I like Pro Tools because of the workflow, I also have the best plug-ins I have ever tried for my Pro Tools system. Works great. I also use Logic, very nice app, I use Reason sometimes, pretty cool, I have a copy of Digital Performer I use sometimes... And of course Live. Live is my latest love despite being a user since v2. Believe it or not, I'm not hear to spread Pro Tools propaganda, I just think they get some undeserved bashing sometimes. It's all tools, and I use them for what they do best and for how they work best for me.

And for the record, tonight I'm making beats in Live alone. How about that?

eyeknow · Post by **eyeknow** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:22 pm

no prob

lunabass · Post by **lunabass** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 12:04 am

Stiff wrote:Yeah, I remember when the support for the 001 was dropped. There were in fact reasons for it besides being bastards (among other things, the change in Apple hardware) but I certainly understand your frustration regarding that.

There are no other reasons, I've had it admitted to me by a Digidesign rep. Apple went PCIX...so what, I could have used the card on a PC....I could still be using it on my mac at home right now. All they did was put a little bit of code in pro Tools that said "pro tools cant boot if a 001 is attached". Sorry but thats just complete crap.

Stiff wrote:Just out of curiosity, wouldn't you need to run a later version of Pro Tools if you're teaching it?

Yeah I use the schools Mbox and am currently teaching V7.1. Dont get me wrong, I think Pro Tools software is great especially for multi-track recording and for its audio editing...I feel they just treat their customers with contempt.

I also feel that some of their hardware isn't all what its cracked up to be. The amount of problems we've had with power supplies on our Pro Control modules considering how much that desk costs is annoying to say the least.

Cheers

mike holiday · Post by **mike holiday** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:22 am

im just trying to figure out how they will make the speakers "ONLY" work with PT