SHITE!!! - Virginia Tech 33 Dead (Vs 18,000 Dead)?

[DrainBamage]

Stuff...

Jesus you're as thick as shit.

Is there an ignore function on this thing?

No, there is no ignore button, stupid cunt.

You're not getting any pussy are you? So much anger, even for a stupid cunt.

[john gordon]

Every country needs a good massacre every once in a while

stupid thing to say bro.

[jasinski]

er... i like making music..

[cjyetman]

I just read the news on Virginia Tech and was in shock.

Then on CNN.com, down the page a little bit is an article on starvation.

18,000 Dead EVERY DAY

It's weird the way people are drawn to emotional stories that are closer to them and can relate more to individual death Vs thousands ( I heard someone talking about that on NPR over the weekend).

Or maybe starvation, auto accidents, natural disaster, mal-nutrition (the # USA killer), disease are not as sexy as a gun story?

Discuss (or not - there's no Paris Hilton or DJ in this story)....

18,000 dead every day and you choose to post this to a music forum only after a kid shoots and kills 30 some people...

strange world indeed.

[12micsn1]

the saddest thing about this whole Virginia shooting incident is that due to the police & staff at the college not taking prompt action, you know that there's a team of lawyers lining up to sue the ass off all concerned.

'my son's been killed - hey fuck it, let's sue for $10,000,000.00 that'll make everthing ok'

no, the saddest thing is the reporting an whats not being told by the media in this persons profile. Example: Parents, lifestyle, drugs, video games, movies, abuse, morality, and the influence of all the negativity this person saw an was taught in his everyday that help create this enemy(monster) within this persons mind. It doesnt take much for all people to break and lose there mind an go postal like GOMER PILE from the movie FUll METAL JACKET. Or was this person really insane or just more motivated to act on personal beliefs much like a suicide bomber? its only a outrage when when the numbers are extremely high in this homicide case that the media fully exploited it. Plenty of people to blame and millions of people looking to act this way daily. Almost amazing we dont see more of this craziness in the west then whats been going on Iraq. Were F-N going crazy here trying to survive the daily kaoss. I prefer to have a gun knowing someone crazy as this person is walking around an might need to be put down like a mad dog any day then go nuts on everyone. then again i could act like this person an be pretty motivated. This person should have been committed when he was diagnose as a real crazy. Another huge mistake an 32 are dead. AGAIN real crazy.

[Sibanger]

"Save the planet. Kill yourself"
Tone Deft may be onto something here.
Is it the pressure of modern life with too many people on this planet causing too much stress on resources and breaking our fragile human minds that makes people commit these crazy acts of violence?
Been some interesting experiments on animals re overpopulation and the effect it has on their 'normal' behaviour. Nature has its ways to level out population spikes, and if we bypass those natural ones.........
Seems when there is too many of one species all clumped together all trying to outdo each other to survive, it goes off like a cracker.
Just a thought.

[eyeknow]

er... i like making music..

edit, DAMMIT, I posted...........er, I screwed up........hipocrit.....hipocrit............

[eyeknow]

poooo, I broke a rule.........I need to go lash myself now.........

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[glu]

eww you think outloud too much

[Machinesworking]

heh, you're statement might resonate with americans...

but to the rest of the world, who deal with american foreign policy every day, and have done so for years, how are we supposed to empathise with you ? and should we ? and why would you expect us to ?

Never answered this... because I do not see myself or the 33 dead as "american", or make any distinction at all about the location of the school etc.
Sad fact is people starve to death and get killed in war every day. I do see the irony of 33 lives being given more attention than dead in Iraq, but the sad fact is we expect people to die in war.
I was more upset about the Russian school kids who died in that Beslan school hostage crisis than all the people who died during the Chechnyin war simply because it was tragic that they were no involved in the conflict, and were forced into it.
This is similar to what has happened to Iraq to a degree, but it's just not as shocking when soldiers and insurgents kill people in the wake of their fighting, it's shocking when people target them on purpose with intent to kill them in particular.
Sorry your media is using it as camouflage to cover up your own stories, but seriously if 33 students were killed in Ireland I certainly wouldn't be talking about your countries foreign policy or war efforts, it's just not the same thing at all. I don't think every american is responsible for the war in Iraq, just like I'm sure you're not responsible for IRA attacks against civilians because you're Irish. It's ethnocentric laziness IMO.

[eyeknow]

eww you think outloud too much

heheheheheheheh, er, what was the subject?

[eyeknow]

(lash) OUCH! (lash) OUCH! (lash) OUCH!

Ok, I need to know.......

why is this subject so macabre?

It is obvious that death or destruction has to be a certain way in order for people to be "sad" or "predictable"..........how can that be?

Here's a thought....why can't it be a tragedy without it being "lesser" than other things?

I'll add to the pot by saying this is the most disturbing thread I've encountered........see....to me........everyone should be concerned.....everyone should care......

If your think about it, all the harm/death/fear is globally related somehow.

[b0unce]

First, and foremost, this is an international forum kids. Yes thats right, your domestic problems are not OUR domestic problems. Your foreign policies ARE our domestic problems, however. Take your fucking whinging to the local forum, someone should setup a candle light vigil thread for you. Or, hammer it out here if you like, but go fuck yourself if you think we should be as shocked as you, I will righteously comment on your perverse values here.

Never answered this... because I do not see myself or the 33 dead as "american", or make any distinction at all about the location of the school etc.
Sad fact is people starve to death and get killed in war every day. I do see the irony of 33 lives being given more attention than dead in Iraq, but the sad fact is we expect people to die in war.

its not ironic, its perverse. You dont make a distinction about the school ? Good for you. I do. I see what a song and dance you're media has made out of it -perverse isnt strong enough a word. I seen what a song and dance your media made out of that imus/nappy headed hoe horse shit....because it spills over to this forum. And after that, its easy for me to go check out your media to see what you fat bastards are fixating on while your tax dollar is raping and pillaging abroad.

I was more upset about the Russian school kids who died in that Beslan school hostage crisis than all the people who died during the Chechnyin war simply because it was tragic that they were no involved in the conflict, and were forced into it.
This is similar to what has happened to Iraq to a degree, but it's just not as shocking when soldiers and insurgents kill people in the wake of their fighting, it's shocking when people target them on purpose with intent to kill them in particular.

...its shocking when people target them on purpose with intent to kill them in particular ?....LOL...what the fuck are you talking about. I can assure you, your soldiers and thugs for hire arent killing people by accident. And you're funding it. But no, thats not ironic...and its expected....you want the 'tragic' story line, with the macabre piano piece in the background...with highschool pictures of those who died and brief eulogy's summing up what they could have been....makes me fucking wretch.

Sorry your media is using it as camouflage to cover up your own stories

haha - the cherry on top. MY media is NOT using it as camouflage you presumptuous dog, this cliched storyline is getting as much airtime as it deserves. Approx a 2 minute segment on the news, a two page spread on the papers. I refer to the comment I opened this post with, this is an international forum....not an american one. I repeat - This horseshit story has spilled over from your media into the forum, just like that inane imus/nappy headed hoe crap, Its easy for me to go and check what your media is making a song and dance about this time around, via the powers of the interweb - or check out a buddies satellite TV and tune into your media circus. And its totally within context for me to talk about the atrocities commited DAILY by and for your tax dollar. You still cant fathom that, maybe you never will.

, but seriously if 33 students were killed in Ireland I certainly wouldn't be talking about your countries foreign policy or war efforts, it's just not the same thing at all.

right...so if my media virtually ignored the fact my country is killing hundreds of thousands in the pursuit of political dominanation, soldiers murdering in cold blood, families torn apart, birth defects due to the munitions I pay for, generations of suffering and oppression, economic blackmail...etc etc. You'd actually think its 'more upsetting' if a scitzophrenic shot up his classmates in dublin ?.... OK then. good for you, I guess ? thats not my value system, and never will be.

I don't think every american is responsible for the war in Iraq, just like I'm sure you're not responsible for IRA attacks against civilians because you're Irish. It's ethnocentric laziness IMO.

the current war in iraq is just a chapter in the ongoing book of american foreign policy. its symptomatic of what you're all about, collectively as a nation. Half of you are all for it, the other half is impotent through a mix of self-delusion, self-pity, irresponsibility, cowardice...fear perhaps ? You can always leave, and at least you wont contribute towards financing the monster. Thats not been forbidden. Get out of that system. You cant live in it and expect to be viewed as innocent, not for all this time. Someday will you hang your head in shame like the germans did post-hitler ? You need to take responsibility before someone makes you responsible. Or get. the. fuck. out.

or, and this is the best bit, take your whinging domestic issues to the local forum if you cant stand the criticism you receive here, which you feel is out of context.

[Cryptic UK]

+1 for b0ing

[OvertoneZero]

its symptomatic of what you're all about, collectively as a nation. Half of you are all for it, the other half is impotent through a mix of self-delusion, self-pity, irresponsibility, cowardice...fear perhaps ? You can always leave, and at least you wont contribute towards financing the monster. Thats not been forbidden. Get out of that system. You cant live in it and expect to be viewed as innocent, not for all this time. Someday will you hang your head in shame like the germans did post-hitler ?

Hey b0unce, I think your view here is a little bit extreme. Have you considered that there are good Americans living within the United States who don't want to run away from the problem, but want to work to make things better?

The U.S. is in the midst of a massive multi-dimensional national crisis and it's simply not true to accuse everyone who lives within its boundaries as being complacent with the crusading and carelessness. Many have been snowed by the centralized propaganda system, yes, but I know several U.S. citizens who are intelligent enough to question the constant media bombardment and evident political machinations.

Yes I pay my taxes, but I'm also working to challenge the status quo and elevate the consciousness and sense of social responsibility in 'my fellow Americans', sometimes at the risk of my job and perhaps personal security. Many Americans do have the 'leave well enough alone' and 'I've got mine' mentality and on the other hand many do feel powerless. However, I still have faith in the democratic process, as naive as that may sound, and I think that many do see the need for change.

Lke it or not, there is no 'America as a whole' that you can point your finger at and say, 'You're all motherfuckers!!!' There is a LOT of discontent and anger towards the Bush administration, and I sincerely believe that there will be a significant shift in the U.S. foreign policy strategy should Barack Obama or Hilary Clinton (or Al Gore?) win the White House in 2008. It won't be perfect, but I would be SHOCKED if we don't see a vast improvement in terms of international relations and global
responsibility.