[Semi]Announce: VST to map automation into MIDI

cassiel.com · Post by **cassiel.com** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 8:32 pm

I own the Korg Legacy Digital Edition, mainly for the Wavestation... but the Wavestation VST only exposes VECTOR X, VECTOR Y and VOLUME as automation parameters, even though it has a reasonable amount of MIDI control, so the other control points can't be automated cleanly or tied to macro controls in a rack. So: I decided to write a quick VST in Pluggo which takes in automation and spits out MIDI controller data, and hey presto, I can now control MIDI parameters as if they were proper automation. I have to use an extra MIDI track or two, but that's a small price to pay.

Two questions:

(i) am I missing something in Live which would actually do what I want?

(ii) if not: is anyone else interested in this VST?

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:05 pm

Hi N! Another max-lister.

As a bit of an aside, since I don't use the Korg Legacy stuff:

The main interest from the Live users would probably be in a way to easily re-arrange which vst parameters get exposed to Live by vst plugins... currently Live only sees the first 127, while the rest get lost in translation. I think there would be a real market for a little pluggo that handled parameter reorganization easily.

Just a thought,

Andreas.

PS: Could one have a synth pluggo, where a vst loaded inside it auto-named the parameters available to Live directly, no extra tracks needed? I should think so...?

rsmus7 · Post by **rsmus7** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:45 pm

what's about energyXT?
you can load your vsti's in it and use all the plugin parameters then.

http://www.energy-xt.com/

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:51 pm

yes, the main thing is rearranging them. A system that would make a list of params based on what you tweaked on the interface would be ideal, for instance.

cassiel.com · Post by **cassiel.com** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:05 pm

Machinate wrote:PS: Could one have a synth pluggo, where a vst loaded inside it auto-named the parameters available to Live directly, no extra tracks needed? I should think so...?

You mean having a pluggo which contains a [vst~] instance?

Well, [vst~] is quite an impoverished environment - you'd lose the ability to auto-save presets and so on. And I think I'd also worry about latency.

(I've heard good things about energyXT, but it's Windows/Linux only, which ain't much good for me.)

ground_control · Post by **ground_control** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:05 pm

rsmus7 wrote:what's about energyXT?
you can load your vsti's in it and use all the plugin parameters then.

http://www.energy-xt.com/

Can you go into a little more detail about this? I'm intrigued. Do you have to record and edit your midi parts in eXT's sequencer, or can you still use the arrangement view in Live to tweak stuff?

I've been looking for some documentation, but it seems to be lacking a bit.

Thanks,
J

stutter · Post by **stutter** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:12 pm

they have a forum on KVR, you could ask there:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=36

Sounded interesting to me too, but I think I have enough other things to learn