works with any mouse, tablet, trackpad, etc. install the XCode developer tools that came with your machine. Quartz Composer is in there. you'll have to do a little programming to make it do what you want. but my "programming" i mean drag and drop modules and connect them with wires. QC is pretty awesome.interceptor wrote:That sounds great. I will have to look into that. Would you care to tell me more about how its done?. Does it work with the new macbook pros? Seems apple are changing the trackpad specs all the time now.tjwett wrote:Quartz Composer takes X/Y coordinate info from any input device and you can then connect it to a MIDI out module and send it into Live via the IAC bus. works awesome. i use it (Wacom too) for all sorts of shit.[/i]
Macbook Pro Midi touchpad
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i use them all the time. when you enter "midi" in the search field does anything show up? i have these:bigbadotis wrote:are you sure there's a MIDI output module in Quartz Composer? I thought it just read input signals to use as control data... I opened it up and couldn't find one.
MIDI Clock
MIDI Controllers
MIDI Notes
MIDI Global In CC
MIDI Global Out CC
MIDI Global In Note
MIDI Global Out Note
you can get more from here: http://fdiv.net/2006/08/20/some-new-qua ... r-patches/
you need to install unofficial hacks in order to make that work:tjwett wrote:i use them all the time. when you enter "midi" in the search field does anything show up?
http://softpixel.com/~smokris/widgets/q ... mePlugins/
note that some qc "plugin" developers got warned by apple, that they should remove their plugins. maybe this is due to the fact that leopard might come with a nice plugin-architecture for qc? who knows...
cheers,
michael
only the Global ones are from Kineme, and i wouldn't call them hacks. they are legit QC plugins, likely built off the QC plugin project templates that Apple provides in XCode. one minute Apple is encouraging people to develop QC plugins and now they are asking that they don't? sounds weird to me.zs_ wrote:you need to install unofficial hacks in order to make that work:tjwett wrote:i use them all the time. when you enter "midi" in the search field does anything show up?
http://softpixel.com/~smokris/widgets/q ... mePlugins/
note that some qc "plugin" developers got warned by apple, that they should remove their plugins. maybe this is due to the fact that leopard might come with a nice plugin-architecture for qc? who knows...
cheers,
michael
Apple provides no templates with Xcode to program plugins for QC. The templates you're talking of are using bindings to interact with QC patches programmatically. Not weired at all. But I guess this is going too far off-topic, so I won't dig deeper into that here.tjwett wrote:and i wouldn't call them hacks. they are legit QC plugins, likely built off the QC plugin project templates that Apple provides in XCode. one minute Apple is encouraging people to develop QC plugins and now they are asking that they don't? sounds weird to me.
Regards,
Michael
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the mouse patch works with the trackpad. whether or not you'll get "absolute" tracking i couldn't say. Wacom tablets are absolute, if i understand what you mean correctly. you might be able to achieve absoluteyness by going full screen with your QC composition window, or by making its dimensions close to those of the trackpad.interceptor wrote:Theres no input controller for the trackpad. Just one for mouse. So no hopes for absolute tracking yet.
well, then that's exactly what midimouse doestjwett wrote:interceptor wrote:you might be able to achieve absoluteyness by going full screen with your QC composition window, or by making its dimensions close to those of the trackpad.
midimouse has a mode that uses a qc patch to read the mouse values (but does send midi from the program, not a qc plugin) - and besides that it has a simple less-resource-hungry window.
Anyway, if I understand right, you want to use your mouse as mouse *only* and your trackpad *just* to send CCs and *not* controlling the cursor.
So you have to understand, that this is not an easy task! In order to achieve this, you can't just usa a simple program; you got to have specialized drivers!
I know there was such a driver in the past (@sourceforge.net) that used the trackpad to generate MIDI-signals, but I don't think it's been developed further. IIRC dev stopped with old PPC-iBook touchpads and OS X 10.2 or something...
You know, that goes deep into the system and whenever there's a minor system update or new hardware, things like these are most likely broken. It's just not worth all the work and efford for various problems that arise on different OS versions and computer models.
So I'd really recommend:
- get midimouse or controlAid
- or buy a hardware-controller or DIY one
- or go and buy a KAOSS-Pad, it sends also XY-positions by Midi.
Regards,
Michael
dude, buddy, bro. ok now i think i understand what you're trying to do. you want to use the trackpad as a touch control but WITHOUT having what you're doing send any info to the actual mouse pointer on the screen? ahh, sorry no fuckin idea how to do that. seems like QC is not the answer then. if that other software thing doesn't work you might want to look at hardware as someone else said. two suggestions come to mind on the cheaper side; Novation Remote 25 LE or the new Kaoss Pad mini. i have the Novation and its a decent keyboard with a decent size touch pad.
just looked again at the review in Future Music and indeed, no MIDI and no USB. just an effects box from what i can see. well aren't i just full of bad advice today.zs_ wrote:woa, cool... didn't know that there's a new one outtjwett wrote:or the new Kaoss Pad mini
(but it might not be what interceptor needs, 'cause as far as I could see the mini has no Midi support)
cheers
michael
