DIY Controller

EvilEvilEvilEvilEvilEvil · Post by **EvilEvilEvilEvilEvilEvil** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:39 pm

Hello my friends,

I am building a DIY lemur controller and I need your advice. This control unit will have 2 channels for bass for each lcd screen. then all of all of the complex panning arrangement will be fed into the lemur filter. mostly using autopan plugin for good engineering

There will also be 2 channel arpaggregators for real live ableton manpulation. according to the synthesizer website, this has to be set at 50. Is this correct?

I want to make this controller out of electronic parts but i hear that many people think the jazz lemur is the best thing for what i want. Many of my colleagues here are laughing at me but I know what I'm doing.

My question then is this: can i have real live manipulation of the panning controls and bass at the same time? How much bass do I use coming from the controller? During my Live Ableton and Lemur I'm really worried about the bass. So maybe I need samples of this too in case of hard drive failure?

But before I am commited to this i want to get into technical. For one, do I need to have someone running the mixer on this?

For two, is there an LCD screen that can sync directly with the filter or automapping arpaaggregators?

For three, can i make the controller with strings. If so, guitar string? basses strings?

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:45 pm

Yes, you should use more bass in case of hard drive failure, definitely.

EvilEvilEvilEvilEvilEvil · Post by **EvilEvilEvilEvilEvilEvil** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 11:49 pm

thank you for the quick and reply sprklypuff,

i think you misundertodd the question though. For one... is there samples i can put for the hard drive failure (and i have many of these! hahahaha)?

third, what if bass sample is actually on the hard drive (or lemur controller in this case) failure?

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:00 am

Oh, there is no doubt that I misunderstood.

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:01 am

USE MORE BASS AND LEMURS. And definitely use bass strings. Try and use titanium flat wound low E bass strings at all points.

mike holiday · Post by **mike holiday** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:22 am

put a sample of the lemur on your hard drive

pulsoc · Post by **pulsoc** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:26 am

sparklepuff wrote:USE MORE BASS AND LEMURS. And definitely use bass strings. Try and use titanium flat wound low E bass strings at all points.

Flat wound for the lemur definitely I once tried nickel plated but that's for trigger fingers.

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:27 am

mike holiday wrote:put a sample of the lemur on your hard drive

Ah, yes, that is an excellent idea. That way if you ever forget your Lemur(s), you've got copies of them on your hard drive!! Why didn't I think of that? Holiday, you're a genius.

And for panning, just put 1 Lemur on each side of you, that way you have left and right panning on each side.

Tone Deft · Post by **Tone Deft** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 12:31 am

It sounds like you're using a combination of left and right handed data cables. Take them back to the store and ask the clerk to sort them for you.

If you lose any data, leave your computer on and connected to the Microsoft web site. Carefully open the case (a plumbers wrench helps), collect the data (it looks like dust but it's not, they're very small 1s and 0s) and put all that 'dust' back into the hard drive. Drill a small hole in the drive case to put the 'dust' back if your came without one. If it won't boot up, take it to a store, explain that you put the 'data dust' back in place and you need them to reflash the bearings.

sparklepuff · Post by **sparklepuff** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:00 am

Evil, I hope you're writing this all down, it's invaluable advice. Make sure you don't lose any of the data dust. Replacement dust is expensive, especially if you have to buy it from Apple. But you can also get it from those online pharmacies. Nice guys post new threads about it each day, just use those links.

knotkranky · Post by **knotkranky** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:17 am

i know it's obvious and I mean no disrespect, but don't forget to label your left/right cables, and label the pans respectively
otherwise a phase issue will need to be dealt with. Mono placement should only be panned by plugging a 12 gauge trs cable
into any available 240 volt 60 amp socket, then pan accordingly. Oh, and make sure the mono speaker is calibrated properly.

digitalex · Post by **digitalex** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:32 am

that'll work only if you have phantom power on your dithering unit. it's got to be set real low, cause the ground might only over-quantize the dca driver, if you're on a mac. it's fixable, though. if you're on a pc, you're SOL.

knotkranky · Post by **knotkranky** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 1:35 am

Yeah, that would be the old school way and a little warmer.

EvilEvilEvilEvilEvilEvil · Post by **EvilEvilEvilEvilEvilEvil** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:39 am

ok, then I appluad your advise. But it's getting much more complicated than I ever planned. numero uno, the dithering unit will be replaced by a replica ribbon cable and my expert advisory tells to bass string only. Ha how amateur!

so (then laugh aloud now - chuckle to myself at my own innocative nasty) the lemurs are constructed with such an alloy that the panning will be off if i place one on each adjacent side.. please keep in mind that this is a DIY controller people!

now, HOW MUCH BASS? This is really the issue in Hip-Hop music is it not so if it's not then tell me now is it not so that bass is for hip hop record producer. Can simone email e me an advise on the bass amount to use or post an internet example?

I'm also running a hip -hop american idol/eurovision lookalike contest and must posting photos too!

EvilEvilEvilEvilEvilEvil · Post by **EvilEvilEvilEvilEvilEvil** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:42 am

star power will now begin when the construction of this controller commences. this will be approximately 8am pacific time tomorrow. Set your watches!