Guitar Rock Collaboration

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Guitar Rock Collaboration

Post by nebulae » Tue May 01, 2007 1:10 am

I had a brain fart that those of us who mainly do electronic music but also play instruments like guitar/bass/drums might be interested collaborating in a hard rock EP (3-5 songs max). We could send each other files over the web, put songs together, assign roles. I've done a fair amount of rock, so I could produce the various parts and put it all together. I think that with our bent toward electronic music, the sound would be an interesting mesh of hard rock, organic music with electronic overtones. I think we could also delete the myth once and for all that Live is geared toward electronic musicians.

Hell, if Billy Corgan can do electronica, why can't we do hard rock?

If we agreed to do this, we'd set milestones, goals, and due dates, so we could get the work done. We'd decide ground rules, as in how much do we quantize, if at all, etc etc. We'd also have to decide on who writes the basic structure, who writes what parts, etc. We can make decisions on how involved you want to be or not. I'd be happy to host the whole thing on nebulae.com, or we can figure out something else. I think it might be a really interesting idea.

So who's with me?

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Post by Johnisfaster » Tue May 01, 2007 1:19 am

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Post by nebulae » Tue May 01, 2007 1:24 am

I don't think it'll matter that much...I mean suppose we have between 3-10 people interested, even if they have widely varied tastes from hard rock, classic rock, alt rock, college rock, lesbo rock, psydellic rock, what not, I think for like 3 songs, we can all converge one some core parts and see what happens. It's not like we're jamming together or playing live and need to have similar tastes, right? So what do you think?

If you're asking my influences, well, I learned to play guitar during the era of the Smiths, New Order, Durutti Column, but I'd also love to create any harder sounds like Smashing Pumpkins, or wall of sound like Oasis, or groove-based rock like Curve, or burnout rock like Zeppelin, or retro like Kravitz. So I'm basically saying that anything other than big hair metal (well, I'll make an exception for Whitesnake), I'm in!

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Post by sparklepuff » Tue May 01, 2007 1:48 am

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I'm up for laying down some rock. I've got guitars. I know how to rock. I know how to record. It's go time.

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Post by mattmc95 » Tue May 01, 2007 1:55 am

Weird--I was having a similar brain fart yesterday down in Austin. (Must be the rain.)

I did a 90s guitar-rock track for a radio ad over the weekend, and forgot how much fun heavy distortion, feedback, and MIDI drum-bashing could be. Also was thinking about the possibilites of performing this sort of stuff live with Live.

I play bass and rhythm guitar, in addition to the usual MIDI keys and drum pads, and am also up for anything genre-wise except hair-metal or country-rock. I have limited availability until June, but after that, I'd be up for it. Sounds cool.
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Post by nebulae » Tue May 01, 2007 1:59 am

ok excellent, we got three including me...so let's give it a couple of days to gather interest, and then I'll set up a list with our emails, and we'll either have an IM chat session or an email round-robbin to establish the rules and direction of this project.

Bear in mind that I'm a very goal oriented person, so once we settle on a date and we assign parts and what not, if you don't deliver, I'll be all over your ass like flies on shit. (I'm the fly in this metaphor). Fair warning. :)

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Post by Raph1990 » Tue May 01, 2007 2:20 am

I'd be interested, but what about the time differences? plus do I have to add the effects (reverbs, eq) or will you do that? I play guitar and bass anything from pop to hard rock, very flexible. How good do you expect me to be? I'm probably nothing compared to you guys.
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Post by nebulae » Tue May 01, 2007 2:21 am

Raph-

Thanks for your interest. We'll work out those ground rules when we do a group huddle. In the meantime, keep watching this thread.

As for talent level, I'm the shittiest guitarist I know. That's why I love digital slice-n-dice :)

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Post by Raph1990 » Tue May 01, 2007 2:24 am

well thats good to hear for the talent level, I love copy and paste :P helps me a lot, plus thanks for being nice to a newbie, havent experienced that in my first threat from today.
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Post by Illumin » Tue May 01, 2007 2:25 am

I still have my ESP EX (ltd actually), I think it qualifies me for hard rock/metal....hehe....i may be potentially down for this.....used to do lead in a metal band some years ago =) but I do work full time during the day hours Cali time, so I'm not sure how adversely it would affect this....nonetheless a great idea.
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Post by nebulae » Tue May 01, 2007 2:32 am

Excellent, keep it coming.

As for not being nice to newbies. the only time I'm mean to a newbie is when it's clear the newbie hasn't paid for the software, in which case, no more mr. nice guy. otherwise, it's just stupid to be mean.

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Post by sparklepuff » Tue May 01, 2007 2:46 am

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Post by kabuki » Tue May 01, 2007 2:46 am

I can contribute Vocals... I can send up a recording of Rockstar Karaoke (it's a Dallas thing) as an audition.... I do a mean Motorhead, and I like Hobbits. Or not.
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Post by nebulae » Tue May 01, 2007 3:41 am

Nice, man thanks. This is turning out better than I expected!

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Post by BassTooth » Tue May 01, 2007 4:19 am

i am interested and would like to get in on the action somehow, please keep me updated. my first instrument was the Electric Bass/Guitar.

i have 1 very old noisy and 1950's era Hagstrom Electric Guitar i use it all the time for lead lines and melodies , the electronics in it are very old and crackly and dirty-twangy sounding, it has like 4 switches that sometimes change the tone, its awesome. also i have a Fender Jazz Bass. i am definitley more of a Bass player, as i am not really familiar with many chords, i understand the theory, but most of the time i just stumble onto new chords because they sound pretty.

have you checked out Puremagnetik's "Guitar Rack"? gives some good ideas on making guitar loops. http://puremagnetik.com/


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