How much do you actually sell on Juno, Beatport, ect....?

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Post by xzusa8ky » Wed May 02, 2007 1:07 pm

Any new big sellers around...:-)
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Post by micah frank » Wed May 02, 2007 1:33 pm

We've been lucky and have had a lot of success on Beatport. I think because we got in the door early and developed good personal relations with the sales team there. Beatport's promo (banners and things) can really spike your sales. The Mek! Music label usually sells 100 copies the first week. Then it would taper off until the next release. I think the key is to release things on a monthly basis and through multiple outlets. Then you will see some money and interest in your material.

The Puremagnetik DJ Tools have been selling remarkably well as that genre has so many options and it's left pretty much unexplored. I would suggest putting out some DJ Tools if you are after a little bit of lunch money. :wink:

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Post by Syntheme » Wed May 02, 2007 1:36 pm

warp's bleep.com only pay out in 250euro blocks, so if you only sell a few hundred mp3s, you'll never get no cash

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Post by robin » Wed May 02, 2007 2:21 pm

Syntheme wrote:warp's bleep.com only pay out in 250euro blocks, so if you only sell a few hundred mp3s, you'll never get no cash
I think junodownload work in a similar way.

It has to be said that there's something lacking in these sites in making this feel like record shopping. I still buy most of my music on vinyl and that doesn't look like changing in the near future (a lot of releases are vinyl only still, for one).

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Post by noiselevel » Wed May 02, 2007 2:45 pm

I have sold from my last release ca. 300 tracks.

If you are in the top ten of the frontpage it is possible that you can get more then 2500 downloads.
How much more? I dont know.

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Post by stallos » Wed May 02, 2007 3:47 pm

robin wrote:
Syntheme wrote:warp's bleep.com only pay out in 250euro blocks, so if you only sell a few hundred mp3s, you'll never get no cash
I think junodownload work in a similar way.

It does, they wont pay out anything under 50 squid

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Post by xzusa8ky » Wed May 02, 2007 6:19 pm

I love to hear other users experiences :-)

My personal sale is now about 400 downloads in 3 month's on Juno and some other stores, and that's with my first productions who is actually about 4 years old, so i am sure that my new stuff will do even better....
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Post by xzusa8ky » Wed May 02, 2007 6:25 pm

:D
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Post by beats me » Wed May 02, 2007 8:34 pm

Apparently beatport makes artists sign a contract prohibiting them from telling anybody how they actually got their music on the site. This would explain why the half dozen requests for this information in this thread has been completely ignored. However, they are free to tell you how beatport won't be helping them quit their day job any time soon.

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Post by xzusa8ky » Thu May 03, 2007 12:00 am

To the answer on "How To Get In To Beatport" is quite simpel to answer. You got to be an Label! an Artist wont be signed without an Label, so if you want your stuff released on Beatport you got to be a Label, and the best way is to actually make your own label, it's queit easy but can be a lot of work. Afterwards you can write an email to Beatport and tell them that you got a label and they will sign you if you fit into Beatport, it can take long, and you dont got any garantie that they will sign you! and that's why it's actually better to find a partner distributor who actually got an deal with company's like Beatport and so on, that way you will have your stuff a lot faster on Beatport and that's for sure....

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Post by lunabass » Thu May 03, 2007 1:02 am

A friend of mine has just looked into the Beatport option and was told that they are not currently accepting any new label submissions. They've got to a stage where the quality of the tracks being uploaded was slipping and they are trying to stop jo bloggs from uploading his first track using nothing but the Dr Rex loop player and loops from the Reason factory sound bank 8O
I'd say if you have quality tracks and possibly more than one artist on your label then you would still be able to get it happening.
In the mean time my friend has gone to Stompy.com
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Post by beats me » Thu May 03, 2007 3:40 am

I used to love stompy.com and they do throw the best parties in sf but their site is kind of limited from what I remember. it's all like either deep house or funky house. I used to be a huge fan of both those genres but haven't heard anything great in those styles in forever.

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Post by COSM » Thu May 03, 2007 4:23 am

I give all my music away for free. I have probably made ten times more money from the international gigs I have secured by encouraging people to pass my music on to other people, than I would have if I sold tunes or released under a label.

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Post by djadonis206 » Thu May 03, 2007 4:59 am

I wonder what impact soulseek is having on the overall ability for artist to make money on Beatport and Juno

Filesharing big big big artist isn't all that bad in my opinion

however


filesharing on such an indie label level probably stings...
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Post by pepezabala » Thu May 03, 2007 6:20 am

I've just seen thisthing, it's called "ithinkmusic", and it allows small labels to sell music on the web. without giving half of the share to itunes or beatport. it' a beta that has gone live right now.
WHAT IS I THINK MUSIC?

Ithinkmusic enables a community of independent record labels, artists and retailers to create and sell a catalog of music to the public. This community can manage and display content online, network between buyers, sellers, and creators of music, as well as manage revenues from the sale of digital music files.

Ithinkmusic provides its user base a complete solution for the distribution and merchandising of digital music online. The user base includes professional and amateur artists and labels, as well as their fans, customers who buy music and their friends. Ithinkmusic creates an interactive network of musicians, fans, and music stores that ties each of them together using the same application to make online record stores that sell digital content.

Ithinkmusic functions as a digital music content aggregator and shop creation application. The application offers the following basic services and features to its users:

The ability to upload and manage their catalog of digital recordings onto a central database.

Tools for creating personal stores that sell any number of digital recordings listed in the central database.
While digital technology has made the distribution of files easier for mass retailers, the smaller retailers find it difficult to compete with a growing market of larger chains that can offer competitive pricing and faster downloading rates. In the digital market, it is not yet cost effective for small independent shops to purchase and distribute digital content since the margins are too low to compensate for the a) acquisition of a reasonable catalogue, b) the delivery of content through high bandwidth fees, and c) the high cost of developing and building an online store.

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