Compression? Saturation? How to have this sound?

plugz · Post by **plugz** » Thu May 10, 2007 1:46 pm

Hi all!

I'm french and i'm a newbie in ableton.
At this moment, i work to find a sound.

http://www.myspace.com/0sebastian0 (track walkman et Revlon9. For revlon9 , the bassline who interest me is at 1 minute and for walkman, bassline is approximatively to 2min20.)

http://www.zshare.net/audio/rage-agains ... x-mp3.html

I think there is a big work of compression but not just that.
I work on live with reason in rewire and for the moment, the results I have are still a little bit synthetic and tend to fall into "crrrrr", so not good at all.

If you have some idea about the way of this artist product his sound, i'm interested..

Thanks.

Affiliation · Post by **Affiliation** » Thu May 10, 2007 2:27 pm

try the Vinyl Distortion Audio Effect (Ableton) use soft and stereo modes. Play around with it abit and I think you shoud get something like that. Dont use the ableton or reason compressors...they don't work properly. you should get that sound without them anyway. It will just be more difficult to master a track at high volume without compression.

plugz · Post by **plugz** » Fri May 11, 2007 9:36 am

Thank you!

I've tried this and with a little bit of saturation, the bassline is more powerfull and dirty.

But my bassline is not too agressive, she's power and fat, and don't know how i can do for change it.
I use a synth, and maybe i could use a bass to have something with more attack and agressivity.

In any case, the sounds looks better.

mr-e · Post by **mr-e** » Fri May 11, 2007 5:12 pm

Especially on the walkman track , a lot of the power comes from the bas being ducked by the kickdrum. The kick also seems to be preceded by a very short reversed hihat/shaker to increase the effect.
To get the distortion sound first filter the sound and add saturation/distortion afterwards. You can use a steep resonance to get the screaming effect , the distortion afterwards will squat the whole spectrumrange back to the same volume , the frequency pushed by the resonance will only sound more distorted.

Also , even without ducking the kick in both tracks sounds massive making up for the lesser powerful bassounds (so maybe your bastracks are already powerfull enough).
The technique used for this (I think) is using envelopes on equalisers (made fameous by DnB heads from Pendulum). It goes like this:
- put an EQ with a peak at - gosh - 200hz/whatever on the kickdrum but assign an envelope to it so the frequency will only boost the sample at the very beginning of the kick. This is your 'click' sound
- add an eq with a low frequency like 80hz , also add an envelope , but this time with a small attack and a longer decay. This is the bass oomph of the kick , it will start with a small attack leaving room for the 'click' sound and then taking over when the boost of the 'click'sound is over
- finetune till satisfied / deaf
...
- do the same for the snare drum to get that massive 'paf' like on the walkman track
--> whatever you put between these kicks and snares will sound kickass , even if it's just a sampled frog just after the mating season

lola · Post by **lola** » Fri May 11, 2007 11:37 pm

Get an mpc, or emu sp1200 and some fancy hardware tube compressors and eq.

Think that does the trick.