beatport. sad.

beats me · Post by **beats me** » Tue May 15, 2007 2:42 pm

What the hell happened with the quality and diversity on beatport.com? I used to drop $20-$40 a week on that site and I stopped going for a couple months. I went yesterday for a moment and there was nothing of interest. Granted I only briefly cruised the top 10 in different genres but there are still songs in there that I got months ago and if you check out the progressive house it sounds like the same artist wrote every single song in the top 10, but they are all different artists.

I thought beatport was user driven but it's starting to share the same qualities of commercial radio. A handful of artists that have that "now" sound and let's just scrap originality. This make me grumpy.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Tue May 15, 2007 2:45 pm

This tends to be the case with any site that has a top-10 or top sellers or top anything...eventually, the lowest common denominator gets enough momentum, and the rest are left to the wayside.

Remove the top-10, and you'll see all sorts of creativity flourish...essentially, you'll force people to listen to a wider range of music.

beats me · Post by **beats me** » Tue May 15, 2007 3:01 pm

Yeah, I know just checking out the top 10 is lazy but it used to be pretty reliable on good music and changed frequently. On the other hand now I drop more money on my own music instead of dropping a plugins worth of money on other people's music, but I do like to support.

I think somebody else on here on another thread said beatport is working on cleaning house or implementing some kind of quality control. And I also don't know if the artist/labels that get the banner advertisements are based on quality or some kind of purchase deal, again like commercial radio.

PLB · Post by **PLB** » Tue May 15, 2007 3:16 pm

i've found that once in awhile there is a drought of good music on beatport (top 10 anyways). then you just just have to dig or wait a week or two for it to change.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Tue May 15, 2007 3:20 pm

But think about it - if you're a DJ, and your audience relies on you to be the filter...to be the chooser of what they should listen to...aren't you just bad at your job if you pick off the top 10? I mean don't you have a duty to dig deep and find the gems that no one else has unearthed?

beats me · Post by **beats me** » Tue May 15, 2007 3:40 pm

Yes I agree if you are a DJ then you should be digging a little bit deeper than the top 10. I don't DJ enough right now to be doing that, but even when I have taken the time recently to do a little digging I still haven't found anything all that exciting. It's probably a combination of beatport slowing the new artists and labels to a trickle and the existing artists and labels either aren't uploading new material or the fact that not everything released is going to be quality.

It's just rubbing my inner short attention span and lack of patience the wrong way. Is it too much to ask that a great new song be released every 20 minutes?

craw · Post by **craw** » Tue May 15, 2007 3:41 pm

Yeh, what is with beatport ... especially the prices ... what is with the high prices ... sometimes you are cheaper buying the CD!!

Check out http://www.bleep.com instead ... half the price of beatport in some cases, slick interface, excellent choice of sounds, regularly updated, no DRM, NO BLOODY TOP OF THE POPS TOP 10, etc, etc, ...

PLB · Post by **PLB** » Tue May 15, 2007 3:47 pm

craw wrote:Yeh, what is with beatport ... especially the prices ... what is with the high prices ... sometimes you are cheaper buying the CD!!

Check out http://www.bleep.com instead ... half the price of beatport in some cases, slick interface, excellent choice of sounds, regularly updated, no DRM, NO BLOODY TOP OF THE POPS TOP 10, etc, etc, ...

how are you supposed to wade through all the genres on this site?

craw · Post by **craw** » Tue May 15, 2007 3:54 pm

You cant wade through genres... I for one find that really refreshing... you can discover things that you wouldn't otherwise hear if you simply went straight to the 'house music' section

You can search by artist or label, but things are definitely not pigeonholed into little boxes with 'genre' labels on them.

It is just about good, independent music.

djadonis206 · Post by **djadonis206** » Tue May 15, 2007 3:54 pm

I have no idea what you're talking about - I keep finding more and more and more quality super jams on Beatport

you just gotta find the artist you like and dig - just like at the record store (if you dj'd when records where popular)

you'd know the jams lie way beyond what's on the wall or in the top ten

it's always like some b-side of a breakbeat record that has the super duper techno slammer no one has

Even though I consider myself a techno artist I'm always looking to see what

SANTOS
MEAT KATIE
ELITE FORCE
PLUMP DJ'S
MAXX GHRAME (spelling)
TIM DELUXE
KASKADE
Trentemoller
MOBY

and the such are up to

I'm in all the genres checking out b-sides and whatnot

that's how you find jams - there out there you just have to dig

peace

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tokyojoe69 · Post by **tokyojoe69** » Tue May 15, 2007 4:00 pm

I tend to stay as far away from the top10 as possible. It kinda urks me that there are thousands of people downloading from predominantly one site (beatport) and if everybody just goes as far as the top10, besides all the tunes sounding the same, you'll be hearing every freeeeking dj playing the same tunes. It makes me scared really. There are a lot of gems hidden deep in the bowels of that site, you just need a little patience to go looking.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Tue May 15, 2007 4:04 pm

tokyojoe69 wrote:I tend to stay as far away from the top10 as possible. It kinda urks me that there are thousands of people downloading from predominantly one site (beatport) and if everybody just goes as far as the top10, besides all the tunes sounding the same, you'll be hearing every freeeeking dj playing the same tunes. It makes me scared really. There are a lot of gems hidden deep in the bowels of that site, you just need a little patience to go looking.

and as a DJ, this is precisely your job!

beats me · Post by **beats me** » Tue May 15, 2007 4:49 pm

As far as I know it's the artist or label that sets the prices of tracks on beatport, and no offense to anybody on here that is on beatport, but asking $2.49 is a little steep. It has stopped me on several occasions from a few impulse buys. And I really hate the "vinyl is more expensive" argument.

Scarily enough, using the method of following links to similar artists or "people also bought" links has yielded me more impressive results on itunes, the Wal-Mart of digital music downloads.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Tue May 15, 2007 4:55 pm

Can't wait for this Walmart shopper to download my songs from iTunes:

robin · Post by **robin** » Tue May 15, 2007 5:21 pm

Easy to explain. All the best stuff is released on vinyl. I'm not kidding either.