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I want an Equaliser with more than 32 bands :: *HELP PLS*

Post by Nightrider » Wed May 23, 2007 11:59 am

Does anyone know where I can get an equaliser bigger than 32 bands for Live (osx)?

Preferably free but will consider all.


Thanks in Advance

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Post by Soundmatters » Wed May 23, 2007 12:16 pm

You can always add multiple ableton EQ´s to you effect chain and get how many bands you want!

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Re: I want an Equaliser with more than 32 bands :: *HELP PLS

Post by Lo-Fi Massahkah » Wed May 23, 2007 1:04 pm

Nightrider wrote:Does anyone know where I can get an equaliser bigger than 32 bands for Live (osx)?
Out of curiosity - why?

-M

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Post by Idonotlikebroccoli » Wed May 23, 2007 1:05 pm

Why not?

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Post by Nightrider » Wed May 23, 2007 1:30 pm

Idonotlikebroccoli wrote:Why not?
Accuracy! I'm removing very minute amounts of hiss from recordings.

EXAMPLES

with Hiss

http://www.sendspace.com/file/1qup77

without Hiss

http://www.sendspace.com/file/8d0udr


I still think I can get better.

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Post by Benshik » Wed May 23, 2007 1:41 pm

when i first read the title of this post i thought it was evilevilevil again
like, he needs more than 32 bands to make trance bass sounds ;)

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Post by forge » Wed May 23, 2007 1:46 pm

Nightrider wrote:
Idonotlikebroccoli wrote:Why not?
Accuracy! I'm removing very minute amounts of hiss from recordings.

EXAMPLES

with Hiss

http://www.sendspace.com/file/1qup77

without Hiss

http://www.sendspace.com/file/8d0udr


I still think I can get better.
you can just add more in chains though - even freq1 can notch 12.5kHz!

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Re: I want an Equaliser with more than 32 bands :: *HELP PLS*

Post by polyslax » Wed May 23, 2007 2:20 pm

Nightrider wrote:Does anyone know where I can get an equaliser bigger than 32 bands for Live (osx)?

Preferably free but will consider all.


Thanks in Advance
Not cheap, but I use Periscope:

http://audioease.com/Pages/Nautilus/PeriscopeMain.html

Blurb from their site:

PeriScope is a flexible and phase-correct 32 band equalizer that offers incredibly sharp +36 to -144 dB bands.What’s the truly amazing thing about PeriSope ? A real-time frequency analysis is displayed directly beneath your faders so you can grab your audio exactly where you see it.

Push up a fader and you not only hear that band come up, you also see the frequency graph below the fader rise accordingly too. Use the overview window to set the lowest and highest band to any desired frequency, so you can easily zoom in on a frequency area to obtain exceptional band resolution and separation.


Distribute 32 bands from 0 Hz to 400 Hz for powerful control over the low-end of your mix while everything remains completely phase correct. Or surgically eliminate just a 10 Hz band at 3 kHz.

You won’t believe the effects you can create with an equalizer that attenuates and amplifies as precisely - and drastically - as PeriScope.
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Re: I want an Equaliser with more than 32 bands :: *HELP PLS

Post by forge » Wed May 23, 2007 2:30 pm

polyslax wrote:
Nightrider wrote:Does anyone know where I can get an equaliser bigger than 32 bands for Live (osx)?

Preferably free but will consider all.


Thanks in Advance
Not cheap, but I use Periscope:

http://audioease.com/Pages/Nautilus/PeriscopeMain.html

Blurb from their site:

PeriScope is a flexible and phase-correct 32 band equalizer that offers incredibly sharp +36 to -144 dB bands.What’s the truly amazing thing about PeriSope ? A real-time frequency analysis is displayed directly beneath your faders so you can grab your audio exactly where you see it.

Push up a fader and you not only hear that band come up, you also see the frequency graph below the fader rise accordingly too. Use the overview window to set the lowest and highest band to any desired frequency, so you can easily zoom in on a frequency area to obtain exceptional band resolution and separation.


Distribute 32 bands from 0 Hz to 400 Hz for powerful control over the low-end of your mix while everything remains completely phase correct. Or surgically eliminate just a 10 Hz band at 3 kHz.

You won’t believe the effects you can create with an equalizer that attenuates and amplifies as precisely - and drastically - as PeriScope.
seems so logical it's amazing all EQs dont already do that

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Post by Pantytec » Wed May 23, 2007 3:09 pm

BIAS SoundSoap VST will kill your 32 band EQ idea. What you're trying
to do really sounds retarded. Get SoundSoap, it totally destroys.

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Post by Lo-Fi Massahkah » Wed May 23, 2007 3:13 pm

Nightrider wrote:Accuracy! I'm removing very minute amounts of hiss from recordings.
Allright. Thanks.

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Post by franknputer » Wed May 23, 2007 6:31 pm

Really, for hiss removal I think you'd be far better off using a noise reduction plug than an EQ.

If you insist, however, then you'll need a parametric EQ. I'm not aware of any graphic-style EQ that has more that 32 bands - and that is really the wrong tool for the job. Each of those faders acts on 1/3 of an entire octave - they are anything but precise.

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Post by Nightrider » Wed May 23, 2007 10:32 pm

Pantytec wrote:BIAS SoundSoap VST will kill your 32 band EQ idea. What you're trying
to do really sounds retarded. Get SoundSoap, it totally destroys.
Retarded?? Why the criticism??

As for soundsoap it's not really any good. The examples on their web site are pretty bad.

franknputer wrote:Really, for hiss removal I think you'd be far better off using a noise reduction plug than an EQ.

If you insist, however, then you'll need a parametric EQ. I'm not aware of any graphic-style EQ that has more that 32 bands - and that is really the wrong tool for the job. Each of those faders acts on 1/3 of an entire octave - they are anything but precise.
Great advice! Thanks!!

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Post by forge » Thu May 24, 2007 2:57 am

Nightrider wrote:
franknputer wrote:Really, for hiss removal I think you'd be far better off using a noise reduction plug than an EQ.

If you insist, however, then you'll need a parametric EQ. I'm not aware of any graphic-style EQ that has more that 32 bands - and that is really the wrong tool for the job. Each of those faders acts on 1/3 of an entire octave - they are anything but precise.
Great advice! Thanks!!
Tom, if you just want NR then I have the waves plugs- I can help you do this - I think what you're doing is a cool idea from a sound design/art POV - kind of an interesting approach, but what's cool about plug-ins like waves is you literally find a tiny snapshot of "silence" and the plug in learns exactly what frequencies are causing the hiss - in other words it's like giving a sniffer dog a shirt to get the sent off then letting it go look for it ( :? strange analogy?) but my point is they have been designed for the purpose and can be just as precise - but alot less work

my laptop is shagged at the moment so I cant bring it on saturday but we can work out some other time if you like - actually thinking about it - is your s a powerbook or macbook because if it's pre-intel I can use my plug-ins on your machine because they are on an iLok - not intel macs though i have to pay more for that! :evil:

- so if you are PPC then go the waves website and download the gold bundle, then go to the iLok/Pace website and download the iLok mac drivers before saturday and I'll bring my iLok

:wink:

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Post by MR Coogs » Thu May 24, 2007 6:03 am

Multiple Parametric Eq's would be better suited to specific frequency reductions.
Lots of gear. :)

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