ZOOM KEYS PLEASE

Share what you’d like to see added to Ableton Live.

Would you like to see Pro-Tools or Logic style zooming key-commands in arrange view?

yes
24
77%
no
7
23%
 
Total votes: 31

duffcat
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Post by duffcat » Tue May 22, 2007 5:07 pm

Josh Von wrote:
Tarekith wrote:More user assignable zoom commands:

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This goes along with "let us map EVERY interface element in live, not just the ones Ableton thinks we need"


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Sounds good, but I think it is way too much work for teh development team. Lets keep this realistic. ...I consider comprehensive zoom functions essential.

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Post by JM » Tue May 22, 2007 9:29 pm

glu wrote:I would like to zoom from the scroll on the mouse
+1 :wink:
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Post by husker » Tue May 22, 2007 11:54 pm

JM wrote:
glu wrote:I would like to zoom from the scroll on the mouse
+1 :wink:
++1

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Post by Josh Von » Wed May 23, 2007 12:55 am

Von wrote:
duffcat wrote:"let us map EVERY interface element in live, not just the ones Ableton thinks we need"


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Sounds good, but I think it is way too much work for teh development team. .

Why?

Allowing mappable interface elements is a simple, mechanical programming task

Its not rocket science - its not radically different from one element to another

I dont think they're not mapping them because its too difficult

They're probably not mapping them mainly because they dont think we need them, and they're busy with other stuff

But we do need them:

- i/o, send, return up down

- clip, launch, sample, envelope views

- clip save button

- fine transpose

etc etc

How hard can it be to map these and others? No I dont believe its hard

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Post by leisuremuffin » Thu May 24, 2007 3:01 pm

so you're a programmer?


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Post by paveloso » Thu May 24, 2007 4:54 pm

husker wrote:
JM wrote:
glu wrote:I would like to zoom from the scroll on the mouse
+1 :wink:
++1
+10!

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Post by Josh Von » Thu May 24, 2007 7:50 pm

leisuremuffin wrote:so you're a programmer?

Do you think its hard?

Somebody expressed the opinion that they dont want the guys to spend any time letting us map all the elements

Do you really think its going to take them ages of time to map the freaking clip view widgets or the io view widgets?

Or did you just come in here looking for an argument
. :twisted:

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Post by leisuremuffin » Thu May 24, 2007 7:55 pm

to me it is, because i have no idea how to write any code at all.

In terms of how hard this particular task is? How would i know? I'm not a programmer.


you are?




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Post by leisuremuffin » Thu May 24, 2007 7:58 pm

Well, i don't know, you make a lot of comments about the coding of the software. I believe you even suggested that the abes must re-write the whole thing from the ground up in your opinion. I'm just wondering if you have any credentials to back that up or if this is just another example of you knowing everything without actually having to know anything?



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Post by Poster » Thu May 24, 2007 8:02 pm

we should rather talk in terms of priorities..

we are not in the position to value the amount of coder hours of our feature wishes..

even the smallest features that 'obviously' don't take long to code can introduce loads of new bugs..

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Post by Josh Von » Thu May 24, 2007 8:08 pm

leisuremuffin wrote:to me it is, because i have no idea how to write any code at all.

In terms of how hard this particular task is? How would i know? I'm not a programmer.


you are?

I have a degree in IT and was in the industry for about 10 years professionally

No, Im not but I know enough to know that mapping some widgets on the screen is not nearly as time consuming and groundbreaking as .. say ...

Inventing a new rack system or creating detachable interface components

Do you?

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Post by Josh Von » Thu May 24, 2007 8:10 pm

leisuremuffin wrote:Well, i don't know, you make a lot of comments about the coding of the software. I believe you even suggested that the abes must re-write the whole thing from the ground up in your opinion. I'm just wondering if you have any credentials to back that up or if this is just another example of you knowing everything without actually having to know anything?

Is it possible for somebody to come onto a board,

And just express an opinion without being attacked for it by some stranger that has a problem with the fact that you dont agree with them on everything

Is what Im wondering.


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Post by Josh Von » Thu May 24, 2007 8:13 pm

Poster wrote:we should rather talk in terms of priorities..

we are not in the position to value the amount of coder hours of our feature wishes..

Yes, so we ask for what we need .. thats what this is for

Its a narrow little topic area in life thats important enough for some of us to take a minute out of our day to express our opinions

And ask for things that we would like to see or need in a product that we paid for
even the smallest features that 'obviously' don't take long to code can introduce loads of new bugs..

This is true,

I do think its not reaching way out of bounds to think that asking for the remaining interface elements to be mapped is not a monumental programming task that needs to be scheduled until 2010 :D

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Post by Poster » Thu May 24, 2007 8:22 pm

Josh Von wrote:I do think its not reaching way out of bounds to think that asking for the remaining interface elements to be mapped is not a monumental programming task that needs to be scheduled until 2010 :D

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+1

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Post by leisuremuffin » Thu May 24, 2007 8:34 pm

i was just pointing something out.




You have an IT degree? That's great. I've built servers from the ground up, and i don't have an IT degree. And i also don't know shit about how to code a piece of software like this. You do?


it's not about not agreeing with everything. In fact i have no problem with what you are asking for, why would i? I have a problem with the fact that you act like you know everything about everything. you don't know shit about how to code stuff like ableton.




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